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hey there am going to start woodleves at some point but made this list just see what you all think of it , comments and criticisms will be grateful am a semi begginer at fantasy! (so excuse some mistakes if there are in army list)

spell weaver: level 4 (lore of beasts)
befuddlement of mischiefs
amaranthine brooch
power stone
330pts

spell singer level 1 (lore of anthel loren)
dispel scroll x2
140pts

spell singer level 2 (lore of anthel loren)
lamentation of despairs
power stone
175pts

noble
wild rider
great stag
spear of twlight
helm of the hunt
210pts (seems pricey :S)

10 glade guard 120pts
10 glade guard 120pts
10 dryads 120pts
9 dryads 108pts

6 wild riders with full command. 192pts
20 eternal guard with full command and war banner 295pts

8 way watchers 192pts

grand total: 2002pts

Your noble on great stag isn't allowed to take helm of the hunt (as a wilder rider kindred, he can replace his spear and light armor with magical versions, but cannot add any wargear. The helm is in addition to his light armor, and does not replace it, so he can't take it :-/ )

I think you have a few too many characters! I'd drop one of your casters and add another unit in.

ah thanks for thatt ! i thought coz it was magic armour could use it ah well ;(

i need sum magical defense and offense an if i drop one will hamper my ability in either what you think>?

Dryad units really don't need to be larger then 8 strong. And for 2000 points you have blown WAY too many points on characters. What kind of approach are you going for, I'm a little confused on what battle plan would be. I'm still rather new to fantasy myself but the points that I mentioned I read quite frequently on various boards. In addition asrai.org is a great site dedicated to WE, I have learned a lot about how to play WE from that site, in addition to here at dakka.


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Oh and stupid me for forgetting. Glade Riders would do you good for march blocking and baiting. I mean yeah your WR are fast cavalry, and better in CC, but they are ItP so can't flee as a reaction, which you want to be able to do with a few units.

hey there , whats the reason for only having just 8 strong ? seems quite expensive on characters but id play the list see how it goes plus characters are cheaper in money and im ona modest budget but do you think a spell singer dropped would be better? the rough battle plan would be advance with the central eternal guard with the spell weaver in centre, both dryads flanking so they can flank charge anything that charges the eternal guard who have a combat resolution of 5-6 without kills, then the wild riders go ona flank to try and get flank charges, the 2 units of glade guard can jus harrass any light u8nits and the way watchers act as march blockers, war machine killers and if i can co ordinate things rear charge. will give the website a go cheers!

I believe the reason for only 8 strong is that they are skirmishers and don't get a rank bonus, so why waste the points on filler models. I am also confused with your plan. Eternal guard become stubborn with a noble, but you don't have one. The WE strong suits are their shooting (glade guard long bows, +1 str. at short range, 30" range and they can move and shoot without penalty), movement, and they hit hard in cc (wild riders, wardancers, dryads). Oh yeah, you can make a forest spirit army too, but I am a bigger fan of the elves than the trees. I have never heard of WE being overly strong in magic and once again I am a bigger fan of combat than magic. I usually only take a scroll caddy. The WE core troops are great and all of them come in plastic. You might even be able to convert glade riders into wild riders. I would check out that site for more info too. Check out the other posts on WE here too.

ah right fair enough was only thinkign 9 because they can sustain more casulties , i jsut read the bit about stubborn! , in that case the stag lord coudl swap him out and with the spare points bulk up the wild riders ? wood elevs arnt entirly a rly strong magic army but the lore of beasts is very useful and magical charges are very useful in out manourverin your opponent thats my thoguth at least! my idea to make the army cheap is lots of convertion which i love army should only cost me 160 ish for 2k the way watchers are converted from glade guard and the wild riders from glade riders and dryad bits

The conversions sound like a good idea! If you want to go with as magic heavy as you can, I'd still do something about that mage with just the two dispell scrolls. If you can fit those dispell scrolls on your other mages, you don't have any need for him!

I'm not experienced with wood elves (just had my first game two days ago, actually!). However, I'm trying out running my dryads at 10. I think it gives them a better chance of taking casualties and still hitting hard, not to mention the benefit of possibly winning a combat and then outnumbering the enemy (and since they cause fear, any unit not immune to it will auto-fail their break test). I don't think this is a make-or-break thing.

The amount of points sunk into characters is, I think. If you change the noble on stag to one on foot to go with the eternal guard, you'll save some points.

Another idea is to give that noble the moonstone of the hidden way. I'm a fan of this item in theory (not sure about in practice, though!). You could have this block enter a wood and reappear in another somewhere on the battlefield... it would let this one "sluggish" unit of yours possibly be able to keep up with your other units, and keep you from being stuck with a static, predictable center. All of a sudden your enemy's flank, where you have a few harrassing units, becomes your center when you teleport there . It's also not an overly used piece of equipment from what I can tell, so it might make your army unique! Although, I am planning to try it out, too...

How about trying to fit in another unit of wildriders (since you're converting them, anyway!) with the points spared from the noble's stag and possibly from dropping the scroll caddy (and giving his scrolls to the other mages)?

Cheers,
Steve / RiTides

I like that you are trying different units. I did too to learn what they could do. Remember, though, that they don't really mean anything in isolation. WE have to work together to get anything done.

A good character I don't leave home without: the "standard alter"

Alter noble, helm of the hunt, hail of doom arrow, great weapon, shield. 158 points (can't remember if he has light armor or not)

You could get rid of the non-scroll caddy caster and put this guy in instead. He's a lot of fun. You get super fast movement, can use HoDA to decimate a unit, then charge in. He's decent in combat especially on the charge. By then usually some flankers can help out. Combined charges FTW!

yeah ahve re jigged the list to fit in some other stuff an i realised the scrol caddy was a waste ! have to say appreciate all the advice a lot being a humble first tiem wood elf player and all .

heres the revised list see what you all think!

LORDS
spell weaver level 4 with a lamentation of despairs , the fimbul winter shard, 1 dispel scroll. 325pts
HEROES
spell singer level 2 with 1 dispel scroll and a pageant of shrikes. 175pts
noble with a great weapon, the amber pendant, light armour and enchanted shield. 126pts
CORE
10 glade guard 120pts
10 glade guard 120pts
8 dryads branch nymph 108pts
8 dryads branch nymph 108pts
SPECIAL
6 wild riders with full command. 192pts
6 wild riders with full command. 192pts
20 eternal guard with full command and war banner 295pts
RARE
5 way watchers 120pts
5 way watchers 120pts
grand total: 2001pts

I like it better and better . I think you'll find what you like on the characters more once you try them out; as long as you know approximately what you're going for you can always mix up the war gear on them (since magic items don't have to be modelled).

The other units look really cool and I like the two units of way watchers, and two units of wild riders. I'd go for it

thanks it just hit me how mucha waste of points the second spell singer was ! ill try out that noble see how he fares already have a nasty comnbo i thought cast bears anger on him, so he has 6 str 6 attacks auto striking first

the waywatchers love them , stealthy killers and every wood elf army i see its treeman this treeman that , felt like a change

Oops. I thought bears anger could only be cast on the wizard himself. That would be a nice combo on the alter kindred noble with helm of the hunt and whatever, most take the hail of doom arrow, on him. Even without the spell, he would be hitting with 5 S6 attacks on the charge and with a 9 initiative would most likely still be attacking first next phase anyway. Add three attacks with the spell and he could have the potential to take out a big nasty in one turn. Nice.

I have to agree about the whole tree thing. I keep on thinking; "it says 'Wood Elves', not 'Treemen' on the army book". Don't get me wrong, all the forest spirits are pretty nasty, however I just like the elves better.

As for your list, I like it. I might change the fimbul shard for befuddlement of mischiefs, and change the pageant of shrikes for calaingor's staff. I would think about shaving some points, maybe dropping the branch nymphs to bumb that noble up to a alter kindred noble. The problem with that, is you would lose stubborn on your eternal guard. For me, that wouldn't be a problem because I would use 2x5 glade riders instead of the eternal guard. Which kind of sucks, cause I really like those models, but I go for more speed in my armies. Must be because my first army was dwarfs and well they're not very fast.

Drop the waywatchers and the branch nymphs and bring in a treeman.

the emperors champion wrote:the waywatchers love them , stealthy killers and every wood elf army i see its treeman this treeman that , felt like a change

It sounds like he wants to try a list without using a treeman... and there's nothing wrong with that!

boogeyman: hey there i originaly thought that was the case with the bears anger but i found out after reading the lore of beats is any character within 12 inches or any model actualy quite nasty when you think of it imagine now toughness 7 str 8 and 8 attacks treeman XD thats a monster! aye i very much like the alter nobel although would be hard to him in their somewhere and i like my stubborn! i totaly agree its wood elves for a reason not forest spirits/ in very small writing plus elves the shard is their because the level 4 will go with the big unit of eternal guard and stop her gettign completely eaten alive lol, i like glade riders will try them out eventurly for the tiem being am going to try and gather this army and save the treeees. i have a alternate list somewhere of 2 treemen and a dragon for you cheeesy's out there !