Need a good Ork list. please help!

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**slamminskater**

i've been experimenting with my ork army and still havent found a good list to use. since most of 40k players use marines i need advice on a good army list to take them on.

could i have suggestions using what i have please.

what i have is.

HQ's
Ghazghkull
Big Mek Shokk Attack
Big Mek Kustom Force Field
Mad Dok Grotsnik
Old Zogwort
Warboss (Black Reach includes PK, T.L Shoota)

Elites
9 Nobz with big choppa's
2 Painboyz
5 Meganobz
5 Tankbusta's with 2 Bomb Squigs
4 Loota's and 1 Mek

Troops
30 Ork Boyz
2 Trukks

Fast Attack
10 Stormboyz and Zagstruk
3 Warbikers (1 has big choppa)
6 Deffkoptas (Black Reach which has T.L rokkits and added buzzsaws)
Fighta Bomma (2 T.L big shootas, 2 bomms)

Heavy Support
1 Battlewagon (4 big shootas, zap gun, deff rolla)
2 Deff Dreads (1 has 2 combat weapons, km blaster, skorcha. the other 2 C.combat, big shoota and skorcha)
1 Killa Kan (rokkits, claw)
1 Mega Dread (killkannon, two big shootas)
1 Big Gunz (kannon)
2 Looted Wagons (1 with boomgum and big shoota, other with skorcha and big shoota)

any help against the Emperor would be greatly appreciated!

**Ronin**

Looks like you have a good selection to choose from, however;

1) What playstyle would you prefer? Find that out, and stick to it in it's extreme, where its footslogging horde, mech'd assault, ultra shooy dakka etc etc. Orks perform very well if you specialise. However,

2) You need more ork boyz. Most lists need a solid core of regular ork boys to bring ork numbers to bear on the enemy, especially against marines where your numbers can easily overwhelm if they're not careful

**I grappled the shoggoth**

A few posts above or below this one is a guy named Dash, he is the high king of ork players. Review his lists, for they are most holy.

**number9dream**

I dunno what points you want, I'll shoot for like 1500.

I think this is what I would do, but I'm no expert:

HQ:

Ghazgkull
Mek with kustom force field

Elites:
5 Lootas (I'd just call the Mek a loota...)

Troops:
12 Boyz /w Nob, Powerklaw, bosspole + Trukk with ram + boarding plank

5 Meganobz in Trukk with ram + boarding plank

17 Boyz /w Nob, PK, Bosspole

Fast Attack:
2 Deff Kopta /w Rokkits, Buzzsaw
2 Deff Kopta /w Rokkits, Buzzsaw
2 Deff Kopta /w Rokkits, Buzzsaw

Heavy Support:
Battlewagon (Boyz + Mek + Ghazgkull goes here) with deff rolla, boarding plank, 4x Big Shootas, Zzap

I would prefer rokkits and a kannon over big shootas and a zap gun on the Battlewagon, but if that's not possible at least add a boarding plank.

This puts you at 1289 points, and now I'm starting to get uncertain about what to include. Kannons and Killa Kans are very good, but you only have 1 of each, so not really enough to use them effectively.

The dreads have a little bit odd weapon choices (skorcha is good, but I dunno if I like Big Shootas or KMBs on them, they are only BS2), but maybe.

I don't know what the mega dread's rules are exactly, but since you have it I assume your group plays with Forge World rules?

I think I would either take 3 more koptas (and run 3 squads of 2 - do all have buzzsaws btw?), which puts you at 1499. Taking 2x Deff Dreads would put you at 1469, which I guess you could make up with a burna for your big mek or something.
Running Koptas in 2x squads feels like a bit of a points filler, but I'm not sure what to replace them with~

You have lots of stuff, but it feels a little scattered: some dreads and kans but not enough for a kan wall list, some vehicles but not enough for a pure mech list.
Most of all, you don't have enough boyz I think. More boyz, more lootas would probably be good.

**Kevin Nash**

number9dream wrote:I dunno what points you want, I'll shoot for like 1500.

I think this is what I would do, but I'm no expert:

HQ:

Ghazgkull
Mek with kustom force field

Elites:
5 Lootas (I'd just call the Mek a loota...)

Troops:
12 Boyz /w Nob, Powerklaw, bosspole + Trukk with ram + boarding plank

5 Meganobz in Trukk with ram + boarding plank

17 Boyz /w Nob, PK, Bosspole

Fast Attack:
2 Deff Kopta /w Rokkits, Buzzsaw
2 Deff Kopta /w Rokkits, Buzzsaw
2 Deff Kopta /w Rokkits, Buzzsaw

Heavy Support:
Battlewagon (Boyz + Mek + Ghazgkull goes here) with deff rolla, boarding plank, 4x Big Shootas, Zzap

I would prefer rokkits and a kannon over big shootas and a zap gun on the Battlewagon, but if that's not possible at least add a boarding plank.

This puts you at 1289 points, and now I'm starting to get uncertain about what to include. Kannons and Killa Kans are very good, but you only have 1 of each, so not really enough to use them effectively.

The dreads have a little bit odd weapon choices (skorcha is good, but I dunno if I like Big Shootas or KMBs on them, they are only BS2), but maybe.

I don't know what the mega dread's rules are exactly, but since you have it I assume your group plays with Forge World rules?

I think I would either take 3 more koptas (and run 3 squads of 2 - do all have buzzsaws btw?), which puts you at 1499. Taking 2x Deff Dreads would put you at 1469, which I guess you could make up with a burna for your big mek or something.
Running Koptas in 2x squads feels like a bit of a points filler, but I'm not sure what to replace them with~

You have lots of stuff, but it feels a little scattered: some dreads and kans but not enough for a kan wall list, some vehicles but not enough for a pure mech list.
Most of all, you don't have enough boyz I think. More boyz, more lootas would probably be good.

I'd do the above and then add the looted wagons to the last heavy slots. Then take a Deff Dread as a troops choice points permitting.

Not ideal but that's probably the best you can do with the models you have.

**slamminskater**

i'll give these a shot. i played against a friend who has Black Templars with this 1500pts list, it went well but we had to cut the game short

Ghazghkull with 9 'eavy armor nobz, big choppas, and a painboy giving them all cybork bodies and feel no pain in the battle wagon.

Grotsnik, 10 'ard boyz and a PK nob in a trukk, giving them all cybork bodies and feel no pain.

1 Big Gun Kannon

10 Stormboys

Mega Dread

i spoke to another friend and he suggested a very beardy list which i will have to go out and buy more boyz amongst other things.

thanks for the advice everyone