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I tired, but my search-fu wasn't strong enough to find an answer. All I found was in the INAT said the base should be 3" just like a SM Drop Pod. 3"? Is this correct? I thought the Base of a SM drop pod was bigger. I am not asking how to make a Spore Pod but what the size should be.

So what is the Base size or Diameter size and how tall should it be?

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Davor wrote:I tired, but my search-fu wasn't strong enough to find an answer. All I found was in the INAT said the base should be 3" just like a SM Drop Pod. 3"? Is this correct? I thought the Base of a SM drop pod was bigger. I am not asking how to make a Spore Pod but what the size should be.

So what is the Base size or Diameter size and how tall should it be?
As there is no model, technically you cannot use Spods at all.

However, as it is, it's best to use a 60mm base as of now.

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There is no model, therefore there is no "correct" base size.

As it functions very similarly to a drop Pod, and 20 hormies is probably similar to 10 marines size wise, I would make it no smaller than a Drop Pod in base size.
   
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What is the base size of a Drop Pod? I don't have one and don't have access to one, so I can't measure it.

Can anyone tell me what the base or diameter size and the height size of a Drop Pod is.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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I have seen some people using this cool model from Plasma Hatchers. I don't know what is the base size but it appears to be just a tad bit smaller than the drop pod. If you go with a model roughly the same size as a drop pod I don't think anyone should get bent out of shape. The Forgeworld drop pod for dreadnaughts is bigger than the Space Marine version so I think it would be alright to use one with a base about 5" in diameter for monstrous creatures and the DoM. 3" - 4" is about right for infantry although you might want to use one around 5" for a large squad of Warriors.

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INAT says to use something similar to the size of a drop pod.


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Davor wrote:I tired, but my search-fu wasn't strong enough to find an answer. All I found was in the INAT said the base should be 3" just like a SM Drop Pod. 3"? Is this correct? I thought the Base of a SM drop pod was bigger. I am not asking how to make a Spore Pod but what the size should be.

So what is the Base size or Diameter size and how tall should it be?
As there is no model, technically you cannot use Spods at all.



Where does that logic come in? There's no model, so you can't use it? There's no model for a Tervigon, but kitbashing can bring one together, tournament legal, because it is made of GW parts.

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puma713 wrote:Where does that logic come in? There's no model, so you can't use it? There's no model for a Tervigon, but kitbashing can bring one together, tournament legal, because it is made of GW parts.


It's just Gwar being Gwar. He comes into threads and gives extreme RAW answers to questions that were never asked. It's best just to ignore it.
   
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Puma - the logic comes from the first lines, which is that the game is played using Citadel miniatures. As ther is no miniature for the Spod you cant use it....same as Tervigon, Tyrannofex, etc.

Insanely strict reading of the rules...
   
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I've made my spods quite small, 4-5" across on the base, the "pod" part only about 2-3" across. All my regular opponents that have had a chance to look at it thought it was very appropriate in size, although I'll likely build a few larger ones if I start spodding MCs. You can check some low-quality pics of it by the link in my sig.

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So how can people play Salemanders, or White Scars since there is no minis for them. Even DA or BT? How can people play them? Almost every SM mini is an Ultramarine, that is what is on the box, that is what they must be then.

How did SM use drop pods before GW released them? Forge World isn't Citidel, so they can't be used.

How are people using phychic powers? I havn't seen one model yet model them correctly for WYSIWYG. How do people use bolters? In every game I see, ever single bolter or gun is always empty, I never see any bullets flying out, so how do they hit? How do I know the ammo case the SM is carring is not empty? Then again, how do I know that SM is really a SM? Mabye it's a SoB wearing SM armour and and and, there for is not really a SM since we all know SM can't be female. Maybe said SM shaved her head, since all SoB look male, because of their squar jaws. Maybe all cod pieces have to be removed to prove the gender of SM.

Yes I know Gwar was kidding there. I am starting to see he likes to talk to the extremes. He made me smile in his post.

Ok serious now, 60mm? For a drop pod size? I thought that was pretty small. How do you fit 20 25mm bases into a 60mm base?

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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Davor wrote:So how can people play Salemanders, or White Scars since there is no minis for them. Even DA or BT? How can people play them? Almost every SM mini is an Ultramarine, that is what is on the box, that is what they must be then.
Firstly, there is no such army as White Scars or Salemanders (it's spelt Salamanders btw), nor is there an Ultramarines army,there are only Space Marines. Secondly, the Space Marine codex states you can paint your models however you want. So long as you use Tactical Marine models to represent Tactical Marines (etc.), anything else goes.

How did SM use drop pods before GW released them? Forge World isn't Citadel, so they can't be used.
Forge World is an fully owned subsidy of Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures.

How are people using phychic powers?
Firstly, it is spelt "Psychic". Secondly, most psychic powers have no need for a model component as they are not physical entities which need to be represented by Citadel Models. Some like Boon of Mutation will require a Citadel miniature as part of it's affect, but the power itself does not have a model requirement.
How do people use bolters? In every game I see, ever single bolter or gun is always empty, I never see any bullets flying out, so how do they hit? How do I know the ammo case the SM is carring is not empty? Then again, how do I know that SM is really a SM? Mabye it's a SoB wearing SM armour and and and, there for is not really a SM since we all know SM can't be female. Maybe said SM shaved her head, since all SoB look male, because of their squar jaws. Maybe all cod pieces have to be removed to prove the gender of SM.
Again, the rules do not state that you need to show bullets (and BTW, Bolters do not fire Bullets). They require you to use Citadel Miniatures to represent the game pieces.

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Damn fingers, I thought I caught those typos lol. But since we are going on grammer and typing errors, we usually leave spaces after commas.

Ok seriously now so all I need is a 60mm base for my drop pod. Thank you guys for all your help and to Gwar for making me smile. BTW I looked at the link you showed me, and they still look like bullets. Awfully big bullets.

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bul·let (bŏŏl'ĭt)
n.

1 A usually metal projectile in the shape of a pointed cylinder or a ball that is expelled from a firearm, especially a rifle or handgun.

B Such a projectile in a metal casing; a cartridge.


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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Standard Bolts comprise the following components: Outer casing, propellant base, main charge, mass reactive detonator cap, depleted uranium core, diamantine tip. The standard bolter shell is standardised at .75 calibre, whereas heavy bolter rounds are larger, at 1.00 Cal.

This is a explosive round. It is not a Bullet. A Bullet is a small shard of metal that tears into flesh or penetrates armour (before tearing into flesh) and then fragmenting. These are mini Rockets. A Bolter is more like a Sub Machine Gun RoF RPG launcher.

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Hrm...at the risk of sounding pedantic, here's why bolters do not fire "bullets."

Typically, bullets are not self propelled. They might have a self contained powder charge, like modern bullets typically do, but that charge explodes upon an instant, and that explosion propels the bullet through the barrel. After leaving the barrel, a bullet flies because of momentum rather than continuous propulsion.

Bolters, on the other hand, fire rocket powered warheads which provide thrust after the round leaves the barrel.


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oops. see it now. *edit*

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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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I made these things a while ago.

The bases are rather large. So in games so far I have agreed with my opponent that I measure from the actual 'blob' not it's base. I am currently making some more that use a base the same size that a drop pod would cover unopened.

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There isn't any size for this piece yet, but i have been using a carnifex base or even better a blank cd as a base size. To tell you the truth there are pod in the tyranids codex and it up the players to make their own.

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Thanks guys for your help and reponses.

Nice pick klueless. What is the size of the blob?

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
 
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