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so basically the LOS can move enemy units upon the passing of a psy test

It says "the target is moved 2D6 by the chaos player"
Does that mean I (the chaos player) gets to move the target 2D6 inches or up to 2D6 inches?

I.E. I rolled a 4 and a 6 on the 2D6. Do I have to move the target unit 10 inches or can I move it 8 inches if I want?

I just read the entry in the Codex, and I guess RAW would say that you move them 2d6.

Good question though.

Okay. It makes sense. That's how I interpreted it any way.
Some guy at a tourny used the LOS on me and didn't move my guys the full distance.

Also, if you want to move an enemy using the lash, but by doing so it would put the model closer than 1" of your friendly models could you do that?

We've always played it as allowing the LOS player to make the unit move, following all the normal movement rules (coherency, etc). Included in that would be no limitation on going less than the full distance moved.


Additionally, it specifies that you can't move them within 1" of enemy models... I think this lends further credence to the idea that the move is a standard move, but made by the Chaos player.

If it doesn't follow the standard movement rules, then you could move two models within the unit x" in opposite directions, such that they'd be out of coherency for at least a turn or two. I don't think the power is meant to allow that.

I think you'd have to move them the full 2d6 but still have to follow the normal rules for movement such as distance from enemy units and avoiding impassable terrain and whatnot.

The unit you're moving would just have to make a bit of a turn at the end of the move, basically. If they can't do that I just don't know what would happen. Maybe you just would have to move them in a totally different direction?

The rule specifies you can't move them off the table or into impassable terrain.

Please see http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1610178_Chaos_Space_Marines_FAQ_2008-05_Edition.pdf.

According to the FAQ, the move cause by Lash of Submission is a normal move and the 2D6" rolled is the maximum distance which can be moved. If someone rolls a 12 and only wants to move a model in the unit half an inch, that's perfectly okay.

Okay. Duly noted, I can't move the enemy within 1" of my models .

You know I was just coming back to this page to link to that very FAQ?

It would appear that I've been talking directly out of my arse, and I apologize for it.

Though that FAQ does seem to directly contradict the whole "moved 2d6 by the Chaos player" thing that's in the Codex...

It does not, as a "move" is defined in the Movement rules as being always "up to" the maximum distance.

Fair enough. The "moving up to" bit comes from the movement rules, not the Chaos Codex. Gotcha.

Even without the FAQ, nothing says the 2D6 has to be in a straight line. If you roll 11 but only want to move them 7, you can move them 9" forward then 2" backwards.

Gwar! wrote:Even without the FAQ, nothing says the 2D6 has to be in a straight line. If you roll 11 but only want to move them 7, you can move them 9" forward then 2" backwards.

But that is still a straight line Gwar.

Davor wrote:

Gwar! wrote:Even without the FAQ, nothing says the 2D6 has to be in a straight line. If you roll 11 but only want to move them 7, you can move them 9" forward then 2" backwards.

But that is still a straight line Gwar.

No, it's actually a line with a single corner of 180 degrees. Looks straight, but it actually isn't. Of course, if you want to claim its a straight line, I'll instead move the unit 7", rotate 179.9999999999999999999999999999... ad infinitum degrees and move 2" in that direction.