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So looks like I'm trying to shake things up or something

Here's my first go at a list, and I really like the feel of it so far. Going for a middle of the road power level, somewhat designed to push the speed of the book:

L: Beastlord - horn of the great hunt, ramhorn helm, gouge-tusks, gnarled hide, great weapon, heavy armor = 258
H: Bray-shaman - level 2, chalice of dark rain, jagged dagger, razorgor chariot = 305
H: Bray-shaman - level 2, dispel scroll, power stone, ahw = 157

C: 24 Gors - full command, ahw = 217
C: 12 Gors - musician, ahw = 101
C: 12 Gors - musician, ahw = 101
C: 12 Gors - musician, ahw = 101
C: 10 Ungor Raiders - musician = 63
C: 10 Ungor Raiders - musician = 63

S: Razorgor Chariot = 145
S: Razorgor Chariot = 145
S: Razorgor Chariot = 145
S: 5 Harpies - scout = 64

R: Jabberslythe = 275
R: 2 Spawn = 110
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The spawn are the clearly questionable choice here, but I like them on principle and I think the unbreakable 360-ness of them can only help set up some of their buddies for flanks, if not do other useful things. 110 points does buy a naked wargor BSB or yet another bray, but I like the idea of not maxing characters right now ... I went with the jabber for the movement really, and the devastation it reaps if you are foolish enough to not be ItP

- Salvage

As nice as those three chariots are, I feel almost like another big unit of Gor would be better. That gives you more SCR on the line as well as a more effective bunker for the non-chariot Shaman. With that you can put at least two of the small Gor units into ambush, if you want.

With a list like this, even though you said no named characters, Slugtonge would be a big help (but no is no I suppose).

The Beastlord looks fun, I have seen good things in one sitting in a large Gor unit. A BSB would help, methinks, but you never know... the small units are either going to be dead or flanking.

I like the list. It's a change from the norm (right now). Gors are where it's at! Personally, I think that Minos are going to get pushed back down to minimal units once people have figured out how to get away from them, or shoot them to hell.

Very nice

I personally don't like the gor (especially ungor) models... but this definitely has a different feel from the "Beastzilla" lists! (even though I'm partial to those, since I love the minotaur models )

Cheers lads, glad you dig

plusARGON wrote:As nice as those three chariots are, I feel almost like another big unit of Gor would be better. That gives you more SCR on the line as well as a more effective bunker for the non-chariot Shaman. With that you can put at least two of the small Gor units into ambush, if you want.

With a list like this, even though you said no named characters, Slugtonge would be a big help (but no is no I suppose).

I think I have to cave - Slugtongue is a pretty rocking character in general, but he really is excellent for this build, where I'd need any help I can get in thinning out shooters or knights or really anything . He also solves my concerns with a defenseless bray sitting in the beastlord's block, with that nice regen tacked on. As to dropping razors for yet more gors, I think I'm happier with the MSU gors (2 of which are there to ambush anyway) and the one big block to manage.

Here's 1.2:

L: Beastlord - horn of the great hunt, ramhorn helm, gouge-tusks, gnarled hide, great weapon, heavy armor = 258
H: Bray-shaman - level 2, chalice of dark rain, jagged dagger, ahw, razorgor chariot = 307
H: Slugtongue = 190

C: 24 Gors - full command, ahw = 217
C: 12 Gors - musician, ahw = 101
C: 12 Gors - musician, ahw = 101
C: 12 Gors - musician, ahw = 101
C: 10 Ungor Raiders - musician = 63
C: 10 Ungor Raiders - musician = 63

S: Razorgor Chariot = 145
S: Razorgor Chariot = 145
S: Razorgor Chariot = 145
S: 6 Harpies - scout = 84

R: Jabberslythe = 275
R: Spawn = 55
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Lost a spawn, a scroll and a power stone, but gained a harpy, The Slug and his pre-game nuke attak. Man, I wish I could make this army magically appear before me, all painted and ready to go ...

- Salvage

I like it. I think between Slug, the Spawn and the Jabber it should be too hard to keep things off the flanks.

Ambushing late game with the Gor would be the best bet. That way they can take a few wounds but have the Beastlord right there to keep them around.

I definitely like the list better with slugtongue! He's a Very good fit, imho. Your other bray-shayman looks quite expensive, though- what's the reasoning behind his setup?

With the other bray, remember that 145 points of that is razor chariot Mostly, I wanted another uber-chariot but was out of slots, but I also like that with the shaman riding it at least one chariot will always be in range for a bestial surge boost. More if I squadron them around the bray, which I'd probably do.

Is it a dicey thing to do? Sure, and the bray actually detracts from the chariot's fighting ability because he replaces the bestigor. Mostly it's for the 4th chariot and because it's kinda neat

On the jagged dagger, it's mostly taking up 10 points. I figure biting blade / jagged dagger is about the same usefulness with 1 S3 attak, and no 10pt gift is really very good for a chariot dude

- Salvage

Have to say the Primal Fury horn has done me great al the way through all though then again I've got lots of Centigor....Also the bating of a ranked up Ungor unit does you proud........Personally raiders don't lead to the angling fun of basic Ungors....Get the flank charge on on the base Krokigor unit with a Stegadon fail the terror test sigh..............
Windows explorer told me not to post!! Cool I'm a rebel!

I like it, its not my style I suppose, but it looks cool.

The chariots pretty much make or break this list, I'd cry against an Empire List with 4 cannons or a Dwarf list with s7 flaming bolt throwers.

Well since you guys brought this post back up, you'll be thrilled to see the newest version. This is not intended to be a competitive list, but is intended to use the models I actually want to buy or convert, and is also looking to pokemon-up some banners by putting the despoilers rule to work ...

BEASTS 3.0

L: Beastlord - mangelder, blackened plate, talisman of protection, gouge-tusks, shield = 248
H: Wargor - BSB, the beast banner, gnarled hide, shield, heavy armor = 206
H: Bray-shaman - level 2, skin of man, dispel scroll, razorgor chariot = 295
H: Bray-shaman - level 2, chalice of dark rain, razorgor chariot = 295

C: 10 Ungor Raiders - musician = 63
C: 10 Ungor Raiders - musician = 63
C: 10 Ungors = 50
C: 10 Ungors = 50

S: 23 Bestigors - warbanner, full command = 331
S: Razorgor Chariot = 145
S: Razorgor Chariot = 145
S: 6 Harpies - scout = 84

R: Cygor = 275
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Yes, the very idea of a bestigor deathstar is fairly stupid Originally this list had 5 tuskcarts instead of 4 razorcarts, but I like the razors too much - fear causing, high strength for great justice. At some point I decided that the cygor was my favorite of the monsters, so he beats out the jabber and protects a flank of the bestistar.

So you hate it, right? I'm like inches away from going all out and making the army happen. Main thing stopping me is that I have 1.25 other armies to paint first

- Salvage

Bestigors are B.A, dude. I'm planning on running them 7x3 with a Beastlord w/ Axe of Men, and my BSB with the beast banner. Galore of s7 attacks, and if I get a killing blow from a challenge, they're even more boss being Unbreakable and Terror-causing.

If they weren't so damn expensive (with really no reason....GW really pisses me off sometimes) I'd just take minimum Ungor Raiders, and 4 Units of 24 Bestigors, each with a Beastlord/Wargor.

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Since it is just for fun, I'm not going to comment on the competitive-ness of it, but have fun ^.^