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If I have a Chaos Sorceror with a familiar, can he shoot doombolt and still use the force weapon instakill ability in the same round? I cant seem to find the rule for this.(could be Im just stupid.... 8) )
thanks

If the familiar lets you use a second power, then yes that is exactly what you can do.

It doesn't say how many power he can use during a turn.

I guess everyone just assumes they can only use one power per turn

Thanks Nosfer.

I'm not seeing where a Choas Sorcerer can have a familiar....

as far as I can tell, the only thing that allows a Choas Sorcerer to have more than one power is the mark of Tzeentch

Tsannik wrote:It doesn't say how many power he can use during a turn.

I guess everyone just assumes they can only use one power per turn

The rules for Psykers in the rulebook say that he can only use one power per turn, as does the first line on page 88 of the codex..

Tsannik wrote:I'm not seeing where a Choas Sorcerer can have a familiar....

Second last bullet point.


For the actual question, the Familiar lets him have an extra power, but he can only use more than one power in the same turn if he has the Mark of Tzeentch.

Page 93 of the chaos space marine codex. Chaos Sorcerers must take one psyker power and if you purchase a familiar for 5 points you can take another psyker power.

However only 1 psychic attack may be made per turn.

If the chaos sorcerer is equiped with mark of tzeentch, he may take 2 psyker powers without a familiar and may cast two psychic powers per turn. If they are shooting attacks they may not be used twice in the same turn. However Gift of chaos and warptime may be used twice in one turn.

Wait so If i have an un-marked Sorc with a familiar he still cant shoot doom bolt and assalt using the forceweapons instakill ability. I would have to give him the mark of Tzeench to do this, am I correct?

Correct.

Nicorex wrote:Wait so If i have an un-marked Sorc with a familiar he still cant shoot doom bolt and assalt using the forceweapons instakill ability. I would have to give him the mark of Tzeench to do this, am I correct?

Yes, you are correct.

The key difference is in "take 1 extra power", which is what the Familiar lets you do, and "use 1 extra power", which is what MoT lets you do. "Take 1 extra power" allows you to select (and pay for....) 2 powers from the codex instead of the normal one

Yup. The Familiar gives you another option, the Mark of Tzeentch lets you combine options.

Ahh Okay .. thanks a ton guys. Trying to build my new army. Once I get the list worked out I can begin the conversion work .

I could swear I just saw a reference to Force Weapons in 5th edition now including the ability to use them in addition to another psychic power. Need to check my book when I get home!

You're possibly thinking of the bit that says they "...confer to the wielder one additional psychic power."

I must have an old codex, cause mine says on page 93...
"a sorcerer is a psyker and must have one of the following psychic powers.... "


no mention of a familiar.... :/

Does your codex continue on to show his other options? It's toward the end of the list, beneath melta bombs and personal icon.

Tsannik wrote:I must have an old codex, cause mine says on page 93...
"a sorcerer is a psyker and must have one of the following psychic powers.... "


no mention of a familiar.... :/

insaniak wrote:Second last bullet point.

Tsannik wrote:I must have an old codex, cause mine says on page 93...
"a sorcerer is a psyker and must have one of the following psychic powers.... "


no mention of a familiar.... :/

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