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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 05:15:25
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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So I have been playing guard for awhile now against my buddy and have learned how to deal with orks extremely well.
I am now going to start gaming at my FLGS this saturday and would like any guard tips, strategies, ect anyone has as well and some info I need.
SO I know that they people I am gaming against play:
-Nids
-Chaos
-Space Marines
-Space Puppies
-Tau
If anyone has any advice to offer please do share.
Also what is the best way to keep my guard in the fight and not hightailing it out of there
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"That for all the Emperor's love of his space marines, his ultimate creation - he was in fact nearly killed by one of them, only to be saved by a mere mortal with a 5+ save and a flashlight."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 05:19:35
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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what do you have?
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 05:25:11
Subject: Re:Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well there are a number of ways to run the good old gaurd if your looking to  it up then you could do the leef blower that won Ard Boyz
or a fun armie that I recently borrowed 4 of my friends stuff for was an air cav armie it was 3 vendetas and 6 valkries with tons of vets. It was awesome and killed all the armies on your list.
One that I use alot that is a load of fun to play is a 4 vet squads all with demo charges and plasma guns mounted up in chimeras and you zoom your chimeras up and huck the demo charge out the window into thier stuff its really fun and is a blast to paly agianst aswell. support this with leman russes and some artillery and you have your self a seldge hammer gaurd.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/02/28 05:27:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 05:28:27
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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Kommissar Kel wrote:what do you have?
model wise I have plenty of guardsmen and can proxy about any vehicle i need
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"That for all the Emperor's love of his space marines, his ultimate creation - he was in fact nearly killed by one of them, only to be saved by a mere mortal with a 5+ save and a flashlight."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 05:36:36
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Most of the hard hitting IG list that i think people praise are:
3 Veterans with melta gun in 3 Vendetta
6 Leman Russ Battle Tank
1 Manticore
Left over points , more vendetta with veterans?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 05:38:59
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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LunaHound wrote:Most of the hard hitting IG list that i think people praise are:
3 Veterans with melta gun in 3 Vendetta
6 Leman Russ Battle Tank
1 Manticore
Left over points , more vendetta with veterans?
Sounds good, now to proxy 2 more vendettas lol
How should I go about using a list like this? (I am approaching this with the Socratic method)
and what about morale?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 06:33:15
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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I dont know , i dont play ^^;
The only reason i bother with army list is to see if it can make a legal army or not >.>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 06:35:16
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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morale can be mitigated through Commissars; and Creed and Kell combo.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 07:39:43
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Lady of the Lake
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For fighting the Marines (sw, csm included) take a Leman Russ Executioner with Plasma Sponsons. It should take care of a fair few of those marines. Just remember to be careful of the th/ss Terminators, Melta weapons and any hard hitting CC units. From the games I've seen it makes up it's points pretty well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/28 11:40:29
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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LunaHound wrote:Most of the hard hitting IG list that i think people praise are:
3 Veterans with melta gun in 3 Vendetta
6 Leman Russ Battle Tank
1 Manticore
Left over points , more vendetta with veterans?
Vendettas often function more like pure gunships. Filling up your FA with 1xVendetta w. heavy bolters x3 is not a bad way to spend points. You might want to fill them up with something scoring, but then again, you will probably have scoring units in chimeras anyways
6 Leman Russ is not a good way to spend pts. Squadron rules are not nice, and those 6 tanks are 900 points that can target 2 units each turn = NOT awesome. Squadrons are for 'Ard Boyz level and hydras
Manticore is awesome
To generalize, make sure that your guard army has firepower to handle both heavy armour and lots of infantry, and make sure you have the mobility to take objectives while also having enough firepower to keep you enemy off them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/01 00:43:29
Subject: Help me make my guard into the sledgehammer it should be.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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Kommissar Kel wrote:morale can be mitigated through Commissars; and Creed and Kell combo.
Hmm, okay just as I thought then. I was just wondering if there was another way
n0t_u wrote:For fighting the Marines (sw, csm included) take a Leman Russ Executioner with Plasma Sponsons. It should take care of a fair few of those marines. Just remember to be careful of the th/ss Terminators, Melta weapons and any hard hitting CC units. From the games I've seen it makes up it's points pretty well.
I think I will have to give this a shot
Illumini wrote:LunaHound wrote:Most of the hard hitting IG list that i think people praise are:
3 Veterans with melta gun in 3 Vendetta
6 Leman Russ Battle Tank
1 Manticore
Left over points , more vendetta with veterans?
Vendettas often function more like pure gunships. Filling up your FA with 1xVendetta w. heavy bolters x3 is not a bad way to spend points. You might want to fill them up with something scoring, but then again, you will probably have scoring units in chimeras anyways
6 Leman Russ is not a good way to spend pts. Squadron rules are not nice, and those 6 tanks are 900 points that can target 2 units each turn = NOT awesome. Squadrons are for 'Ard Boyz level and hydras
Manticore is awesome
To generalize, make sure that your guard army has firepower to handle both heavy armour and lots of infantry, and make sure you have the mobility to take objectives while also having enough firepower to keep you enemy off them
Yea, those squad rules are a pain in the ass. Your summary makes a lot of sense, I just need some tactics now
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"That for all the Emperor's love of his space marines, his ultimate creation - he was in fact nearly killed by one of them, only to be saved by a mere mortal with a 5+ save and a flashlight."
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