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With the new ruling on Deff Rollas, I've made a new list to reflect that. I would appreciate any comments or critisms that could be given.

HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka=225
Big Mek, Kustom Force Field, Burna=105

Elites:
15*Burna Boyz=225

Troops:
20*Boyz, Nob with Power Klaw=155
18*Boyz, Nob with Power Klaw=143
12*Boyz, Nob with Power Klaw, Trukk with Reinforced Ram and Red Paint Job=152
12*Boyz, Nob with Power Klaw, Trukk with Reinforced Ram and Red Paint Job=152
12*Boyz, Nob with Power Klaw, Trukk with Reinforced Ram and Red Paint Job=152

Heavy Support:
Battlewagon, Deff Rolla, Big Shoota, Armor Plates, Red Paint Job=130
Battlewagon, Deff Rolla, Big Shoota, Armor Plates, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers=135
Battlewagon, Deff Rolla, Big Shoota, Armor Plates, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers=135

Total:1709

That leaves me 41 points I can't make up my mind on how to use.

I think that nob bikers and a warboss on a bike would be better in this list than Ghazghkull and the burnas and you should get grot riggers on all 3 BW one of them is missing them atm.

Ghaz allows a kick ass Waagh! that gives all orks fearless. That and he is a beast in kombat. His WAAGH! can quite literally change the whole complexity of the game for you.

I would probably remove some enhancements to the vehikles (your choice:definate keeps are deff rollas, everything else is up to you!!) to give you the extra points to field a few deffkoptas. You have the burna boy in battlewagon strategy down pat; you just need to find some extra anti-tank firepower to back what you have up.

By putting all your points into a few vehikles, you will suffer against lists bearing heavy anti-vehikle fire. Expect vehikles not to last very so, so ergo try to slim your points per vehikle as much as you can.

I agree that Ghaz is a very god character but in this list he spends a good amount of time in a battlewagon and makes one massive target points wise. Some other fast vehicles or bikes would allow you to have more targets for your opponent to deal with.

I tried Nob Bikers a while ago and they just kept dying. Vindicators, Battle Cannons, Medusas, Meltaguns, and what not kill them off pretty quick. The third battle wagon doesn't need GR because it has the Big Mek which does the same thing. The burnas I swear by now. I beat double Tunder Wolves SW, and double Land Raiders SW. Each time was do to those awesome Bruna Boys. 16 flamer templates have done wonders. The math pays off getting in only three guys under each template does is 48 auto hitting wounds, which against toughness 4 does 24 wounds, and against power armor it equals 8 dead space marines.

EDIT: Ghaz spends 1-2 turns in that wagon, then pops out and goes krumpin. The Battlewagons are only so points heavy because the're supposed to roll around after dropping their payload of Boyz.

warham113: Ghaz strats often throw him in some sort of transport thing; he is usually too slow to slog through a battlefield. I do agree his point cost is considerable, but keep in mind that he costs anywhere from 60-100 points more than a typical ork warboss and offers far more in exchange; hence the point cost.

Non bikers are a great distraction and one of the best orks out there, but they too consume points. Maybe warbuggies? 315 points nets you 9 of them with twinlinked rokkit launchas.

EDIT: And I did say try and slim those points down on vehikles. Keyword=try.

I could load up my current vehicles with Rokkits to increase anti-tank.

arinnoor wrote:I could load up my current vehicles with Rokkits to increase anti-tank.

It helps. How much would you be willing to put onto the vehikles?

EDIT: and which ones as well.

Well the wagons don't need it as they have the Rolla. I was thinking of maybe adding them to the Trukks, thats 15 more points to add three rokkits.