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This is an idea for a new tank for the eldar.

Fast, skimmer. BS w.e Front14 Side12 Rear 11

Wargear: Photon cannons, Shuriken trebuchet, Ion ports
Can transport 10 dire avengers

Photon cannon:
12" S4 AP4 Heavy 4
never counts as a defencive weapon.
Shuriken trebuchet
30" S5 AP3 Assault 4
Ion particle port rifles
48" S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Pinning
can only be fired by dire avengers.

If the tank has dire avengers in the transport, they may fire all four Particle port rifles.

Port rifles will be mounted on the back (in about the same place as a wave serpents turret.)
Photon cannons will by mounted on side wings (like drones on a hammerhead.)
Shuriken trebuchets will be placed in underneath port, like a falcon.

rapid deployment
10 dire avengers can disembark even if it moves at flat out. if this is the case the troops count as deepstriking 6" away from the back hatches.

I was thinking 200 pointsish.

I think 200 points would be too high, I think 80-90 points should be sufficient.

and make the transport 11 or 12 so you could get Eldrad or another Farseer in their with them.

Captain Solon wrote:This is an idea for a new tank for the eldar.

Fast, skimmer. BS w.e Front14 Side12 Rear 11

Wargear: Photon cannons, Shuriken trebuchet, Ion ports
Can transport 10 dire avengers

Photon cannon:
12" S4 AP4 Heavy 4
never counts as a defencive weapon.
Shuriken trebuchet
30" S5 AP3 Assault 4
Ion particle port rifles
48" S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Pinning
can only be fired by dire avengers.

If the tank has dire avengers in the transport, they may fire all four Particle port rifles.

Port rifles will be mounted on the back (in about the same place as a wave serpents turret.)
Photon cannons will by mounted on side wings (like drones on a hammerhead.)
Shuriken trebuchets will be placed in underneath port, like a falcon.

rapid deployment
10 dire avengers can disembark even if it moves at flat out. if this is the case the troops count as deepstriking 6" away from the back hatches.

I was thinking 200 pointsish.

So you have a flying Lehman Russ Demolisher that has four better-than-missile-launchers and four shots of crazy long range AP3? What vehicle upgrades were you going to allow it? If it sits still, can it conveniently fire all 12 of the shots it gets? I'm surprised you didn't let it fire the S4 weapon while moving, but then again, I'm also surprised you didn't give it automatic holofields and set the price at 100 points.

This puts this tank 20 points above where a holofield and a missile launcher would be on a Falcon. I feel the Falcon is appropriately priced, if not a tad too expensive. This tank is not.
My advice:
Drop 14 front armor to 12 if you want it to be fast.
Stick with weapons that already exist when you're trying to push a tank through, or at least weapons that others have already said are reasonable.
Play some IG if you want a gunboat. This thing puts out firepower that Land Raiders are jealous of.

Just thought I'd toss in my help, here. I'd suggest a new name, Firestorm is already taken. It's the Eldar FW Anti-air tank.

Thats what I was going to note.

my appologies. port rifles are supposed to be S3. (like hot-shot lasguns.)

Captain Solon wrote:This is an idea for a new tank for the eldar.

Fast, skimmer. BS w.e Front14 Side12 Rear 11

Armour 14 is too high for Eldar unless it's a super heavy.

Shuriken trebuchets will be placed in underneath port, like a falcon.

How does a trebuchet work from underneath the tank?

Insaniak, thanks for the note.

New idea:

BS4 FAV 12 Sav 12 Rav 11
Two bottom port trebuchets
24" S5 AP4 Assault 3
Two hammer-head like drone Photon cannons
12" S6 AP4 Heavy 2
Ion rifles will be:
Ra 18" S3 AP5 assault 2

Modification for ion rifles:

Ra 24" S5 AP3 Assault 2, Gets hot!

Gets hot = if you take a wound, remove an avenger who is being transported by the tranport.

Dedicated transport at 90 points, can carry 10 DA and one independent character.

Captain Solon wrote:Two bottom port trebuchets

So still leaves the second problem...

To be honest, I think it's carrying too many weapons for a troop transport.

I would go with your 'Photon Cannons' on the underslung spot, and have a choice of Ion Rifles and 'trebuchets' (either changing the name, or putting them on the top of the wings and making them some sort of Barrage weapon) or transport capacity.

insaniak, the idea comes from the Shuriken catapults.

it doesn't actually fling them, it's just shoots splints.

But maybe instead Shuriken trebs, Shuriken Bombadiers.

Captain Solon wrote:insaniak, the idea comes from the Shuriken catapults.

I figured that was where you were coming from, but it doesn't really work. 'Catapult' is a much more generic term, and can be applied to pretty much anything that propels an object at speed. 'Trebuchet' though is a very specific type of catapult, utilising a counter-weight to swing a big arm that hurls the projectile. So it really doesn't fit a straight-firing, underslung weapon.



Is there really even any need to give it a new type of Shuriken weapon? For that matter, it occurs to me that given the ritualised nature of the Eldar aspects, and the Dire Avenger's normal use of Shuriken catapults, that maybe a vehicle purpose-designed for Avengers would be better off maxing out on Shuriken weapons instead of adding in a whole swag of new weapons?

So, something along the lines of an underslung Shrieker cannon, a couple of regular Shuriken Cannons under the wings, and either 4 Avenger Catapults on top, or an open-topped firing platform from which embarked Avengers can fire.

I'd still go with something a little bigger than a Falcon for that amount of weaponry, or drop the Transport capacity to 5.

Captain Solon wrote:Insaniak, thanks for the note.

New idea:

BS4 FAV 12 Sav 12 Rav 11
Two bottom port trebuchets
24" S5 AP4 Assault 3
Two hammer-head like drone Photon cannons
12" S6 AP4 Heavy 2
Ion rifles will be:
Ra 18" S3 AP5 assault 2

Modification for ion rifles:

Ra 24" S5 AP3 Assault 2, Gets hot!

Gets hot = if you take a wound, remove an avenger who is being transported by the tranport.
Dedicated transport at 90 points, can carry 10 DA and one independent character.

- The fancy weapons of the Eldar pointedly avoid having Gets Hot! on any of their weapons due to superior technology and all that. Whats the justification for changing it now? If the Gets Hot! of the vehicle affects the DA inside (something that's never been done by any rules before), how do you handle if it causes a morale check due to casualties? Can they disembark to flee? Are they fearless? What happens if they're killed completely in a state like that? Does that count for a kill point, even though they weren't technically on the table? Can Exarchs fire these Ion weapons?
- You haven't explained why you're making a better gunboat than anything else the Eldar have at cheaper. A falcon is 115 points base. Granted, without upgrades and at 115 points, they kinda suck, but you're going in the wrong direction as well.
- Is this a tank? You said initially that it just has fast and skimmer, but then you refer to it as a tank throughout the remainder of the text.
- Did you have anything to do with the Space Wolves codex? Just curious.
- Very minor nitpick, all of these weapons are presumably unique to this vehicle (unless they exist elsewhere in Solonhammer still unseen by the likes of mortal men), why bother making some of them heavy and some not?

Oh, and I second everything insaniak said.