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Changing my mind to yellow after priming black my not have been the best idea I ever had.

This is just the start of it. Thinking about re-priming white.

I dunno if this is just the base coat it looks just fine to me. Other wise if you rebase in white try using a yellow ink it will fill in better than using a standard yellow paint.

Although inks are a bit finicky they are super vibrant so sometimes they are a bit too colorful (not a bad thing for Orks) on white and they don't work very well on black (some like yellow really don't work at all).

Man you are a masochist!

Yellow over white EVERY time
However now you have already primed black you can use a suitable foundation and then paint yellow, that works and would save you the trouble of repriming.

Problem with yellow paint is that the pigments are always transluscent.

hth
edit agree with Zhetsuken
an admirable job mate

Why not just get a can of Army Painter's Daemonic Yellow primer and spray that, saving having to paint any yellow on top of anything?

legoburner wrote:Why not just get a can of Army Painter's Daemonic Yellow primer and spray that, saving having to paint any yellow on top of anything?

Shhhh! Stop making it too easy....

He has a great point some times it isn't a bad idea to cut out the middle man and prime/base in your desired main color.

I have never worked with yellow before and I kinda decided to give it a try after the primer was on.

Yellow is a bear to mess with I am finding. As Chibi Bodge-Battle said, yellow is very translucent.
I have actually put 3 or so lite washes of yellow on it trying to not get the paint too thick.
It actually doesnt look that bad though. Kinda has a caterpiler tracker look to it.

Well congrats on wanting to try and paint something different. And now you know first hand why people talk about yellow being a pain in the ass to paint good. It looks like your getting it on there well enough. But youve discovered basing black normally isnt the way to go with yellow. It takes alot of coats over black.

For yellow over black, you need to work down to it. Otherwise, as you appear to have found, it can develop an odd greenish tinge and never quite covers right.


I do a basecoat of black, followed by a coat of Bestial Brown, and then a layer of Bronzed Flesh or Bleached Bone (depending on how bright I want the yellow) and then a coat of yellow.

Add in highlights by mixing a little white into the yellow, and you wind up with something more or less like this:


(Not exactly like that. Yours will probably look a little less like a largish talk-show guest with a flail...)

I think the biggest issue with that is you've just got too much yellow on the model itself.

And I'd also suggest next time starting with Iyanden Darksun as the 'base' for your yellow then building up from there. It won't end up with the neon effect you've seemingly got going on as it stands.

But also, I think this has alot of promise once you do the standard Orky glyphs, checkered stripes, and then give it a good wash of Gryphonne Sepia.

thanks for the tips so far folks.

It does have a greenish and neonish look to it. It seems to get better though with every coat.
I am not sure how many more coats I can put on it before it starts to look caked on.
Wish I would have gotten those tips from Insaniak before I started. So this is surely somehow Insaniaks fault.

As for too much yellow, I have plans on putting some red or orange triangle boarders maybe checks or both that will cover some of this yellow.

I am trying to do a little different paint job on this one. I have gotten into the habit of black primer, rust wash, color wash and then dry brush gun metal.
That has worked well for me up till this point but I am trying to up the stakes on this one a bit.

It's quicker to use a foundation over the black, Stump

though not as quick as white or yellow primer to start with of course

Black Primer
Tausept ochre
possibly bleached bone
Yellow should go over the ochre ok

Stump wrote:thanks for the tips so far folks.

It does have a greenish and neonish look to it. It seems to get better though with every coat.
I am not sure how many more coats I can put on it before it starts to look caked on.
Wish I would have gotten those tips from Insaniak before I started. So this is surely somehow Insaniaks fault.

As for too much yellow, I have plans on putting some red or orange triangle boarders maybe checks or both that will cover some of this yellow.

I am trying to do a little different paint job on this one. I have gotten into the habit of black primer, rust wash, color wash and then dry brush gun metal.
That has worked well for me up till this point but I am trying to up the stakes on this one a bit.

Then you're all set. Like I said, it just seems like too much yellow as it is. I'm sure it'll look much better with the teeth and borders added in.

Do you have any weathering powders? Mix a dab of a rust powder with two drops of matte medium and three drops of thinner, mix it up real nice and you'll have a nice 'sludge' to apply to the model that would do quite a bit to tone down the brightness too.

Stump wrote:Wish I would have gotten those tips from Insaniak before I started. So this is surely somehow Insaniaks fault.

Sorry, I shall endeavour to be more psychic with my tips in the future...

As for too much yellow, I have plans on putting some red or orange triangle boarders maybe checks or both that will cover some of this yellow.

I don't think it will be too much once you have painted the metal parts and added the detail. If it does come out being a little too much, adding in battle damage is a great way of cutting down or breaking up the colour a little. As is simply running a wash over it to dirty it up a little (insert gratuitous plug for Devlan Mud, which is currently my favourite paint of all time...)

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:It's quicker to use a foundation over the black, Stump

though not as quick as white or yellow primer to start with of course

Black Primer
Tausept ochre
possibly bleached bone
Yellow should go over the ochre ok

So potentially the same number of coats as my method...

To be fair, though, the Foundation paints are definitely worth a look for yellows and reds over black, since that's pretty much what they were designed for. I don't generally recommend them myself as I haven't had the chance to try them out yet.

BLAH!

Into the simple green void it has gone.

I was just not happy with the way it was looking.
I tried to convince myself I wanted that "neon green" look it had going on but it just was not working for me.

Have you tried tried Iyaden Yellow? Two coats of that should save you many, many coats of any other yellow paint.

Yellow coverage is crap over any base colour.

Take legoburner's advice and prime in yellow if that is going to be your main colour.

One thing that made me go ahead and dunk it in the simple green was a that happened.

As I was cleaning up the yellow with some black the thing slipped out of my hand and BANG!!!! big black streak down its face.
That black streak was gonna be there forever too. No amount of yellow was gonna get rid of it.

I'm just going to start snickering from now on whenever I see a thread where someone has a problem with yellow over black undercoat.

Anyway, try GW Golden Yellow over white and highlight from there. Golden Yellow has good coverage and you won't have to shade too much.

I have painted Yellow over black. Use Iyaden Yellow Foundation paint as your base coat. One coat was just fine for me but if you are a perfectionist, the second coat will eliminated and black showing through. Then, Paint Sunburst Yellow which will need 2-3 coats for an even finish. Or, you can paint one coat, then wash with devlan mud and finally highlight with a drybrush of Sunburst Yellow.

I painted a Devilfish and Firewarrior unit this way. The tank was easy, the firewarriors more difficult as and misbrush of paint on the plack areas needed to be cleaned immediately.

One thing I learned in art class was that going light to dark with yellows the darks are brown, not black. I'v never painted alot of yellow on my minis, but when I do I cover the black backcoast with a lighter color first (usualy white) to prevent greenening and brighten it up.

thanks for the tip and info.

I will be heading in for round 2 in a few days.

Just went to my local GW store and got me some proppa supplies and am ready for another go.

AAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! Yellow sucks.

I am determined to make it work though. I will post picks of awesome looking yellow kans and dread or pics of me in a padded cell.
Either pics should bring enjoyment to all.

I am using one of the new kans as a guinea pig for yellow. Trying almost all the suggestions given so far except the yellow primer. That might be next.

You can do it man. I mean you almost had it with just a bunch of yellow paint lol. Im sure youll nail it this time around.

This is what I hve atm.

It is not very brilliant in color but I think this time I am actually happy with it.

I have only done the part that has the red circle around it.

I like going over with a layer of brown first, then the yellow

all the spots that are going to be yellow have been covered with Iyanden Brown. That is what is on everything else but the semi-finished section.

Easiest way to do yellow (IMO) over black -
Deneb Stone - a couple of thinned coats should do the trick.
Then Yellow straight over that.
Give it a try - you may be suprised!

The lighting is probably skewing it a little, but that looks pretty good so far...

My method of painting yellow over black, seen as everyone wants their word in, is a

coat of red gore over everywhere you want yellow (and anywhere you might want red gore)
coat of iyanden darksun
coat of gloden yellow
edge highlight of sunburst

Makes my Imperials look v bright.

I think I am finally there.