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Well the Farseer's dead so there's really nothing to like at all in this situation. The Dark Kin are not to be taken lightly, taking a Farseer by surprise and killing them is no easy feat. There must have been a far greater threat to our race for Shi Slaith to allow themself to be killed in such a way.

I'll search around the room for the stone, it's too important to leave to chance.

What do you mean ex-leader? We get that soul stone back to the craftworld and we'll be able to talk to them. But, thats if we survive untill we get there and can find it.

Avantegarde show some respect. Another thing I have been noticing is some of you are reacting to this with a bit too much emotion. Us Eldar have to remember to remain calm and in control otherwise we might invite the filthy Daemons. Calm and logical is the way of the Eldar.

Trying to bandwagon so early is suspicious, but it's probably from inexperience rather than trying to rush through the day. Either way though it still looks suspicious.

After we all over looked Drk_O's craziness last time, we'll have to keep a closer eye on it. It seems clever though as it's a kind of disruption. The randomness making it hard to find any patterns if they're careful enough. I wouldn't be surprised if shas'o vera actually turned out to be one of the Dark Kin, yet there isn't enough of a pattern to go by yet.

Also Vulkan, why did you vote for Dark_O

I agree with Lord-Loss, Bishop and shas'o vera seem the most suspicious at the moment.

OOC: Avent if it's anything like the other games you can vote for yourself. However its usually a last resort trick used by the bad guys to force the day to end early to give their team mates as much of an advantage as possible. If you want to draw an extremely high amount of attention to yourself, then vote for yourself

Just mentioning that someone is suspicious should be a cue for them to look at their previous behaviour and try to correct the problem leading to suspicion. Of course heading 100% in the opposite direction is actually suspicious as well. If they truely are guilty they'll slip up several other times, depending on how clever they are will determine how obvious it is.

I don't doubt that the first kill will be an innocent.

Wouldn't it be more acurate to call it the Probing Voting Phase then?

OOC:What is it with EF? Without fail no matter what first day of any game he's one of the big suspects

IC:We just need to be sure not to come to a lynch until the very end of the day. If anything Arheiner is more suspicious, throwing out suspicions like that with so much apparent confidence. Only a Dark Kin would know who the other Dark Kin are. Now it might not make much sense there, but they would also know who isn't a Dark Kin and what better way to throw the loyal Eldar remaining into chaos for their escape than to make us all second guess the intention of everyone around us.

Only shas'o seems suspicious out of them. What's really interesting about it is right off the first two are more experienced and are usually seen leading the loyalists to victory. Care to explain what has made them so suspicious?

OOC: shas'o, google the gif of the Objection next time so everyone gets it

Well his behaviour definitely reminds me of Drk_O's, in fact I'd say we're even handling this the exact same way. I will seriously luagh if Vulkan breaks the rules, accidentally, to reveal him as a bad guy then we wonder why we changed our minds when we were so close to a day one bad guy kill.

It is pretty suspicious, I'm not going to vote for him though as I'm sure it will start off the "OMG BANDWAGUNZ" reaction. But, I guess like EF, an explanation would be nice

So that brings it up to four suspicious people so far. Some have atleast given an alright explanation others have sort of danced around it.

Maybe Drk_O really is one, after all only a Dark Kin would ignore important parts of the Eldar's investigation

First post and he's already a little suspicious

Emperors Faithful wrote:Oh hell no...

(wave of Guilt after remembering responsibility in the_ferrets demise)


@not_u: Who are those 4 that you find most suspicious?

If I remember right as I might have reconsidered them before it, which is why I didn't put any names
Vulkan, Bishop (don't exactly remember why anymore so I guess he can be off the list for now), shas'o and I can't really remember the last one at the moment... >_>
It was either Scarper, Avent or Mekboy so for now it's "that suspicious guy"

It's just we're all looking for the subtle hints of evil, some harder than others.

Hmmm?


Well time and time again the random "free spirit" of the game usually turns out to be a bad guy trying to give of the illusion of incompetence. So it's only to be expected that the veterans would have a closer eye on people like that. Sometimes they're innocent though, but as they generally don't add much to the investigation people are more likely to take a chance when voting for them.

Asking questions is never wrong, assuming you already know the answers is the path to stupidity.

OOC: WAAAAALLLL-EEEEEEE

Nil ann ach cleasai, agus tá an iomad measa aige air féin.

So you're suggesting that we vote for Vulkan as an attempt to make him talk a bit more by adding pressure to him? Sounds like both a form of torture and a decent method of finding the truth, I'm going with the later (the decent way of finding the truth).

So Vulkan, explain why I shouldn't vote for you? Convince me you're not a Dark Kin. Motivate me to find a fragment of trust.

I'm waiting for the first reply before deciding if I should press on further with my vote or not.

What would this reason be? Just voting for you?

˙sǝlƃuɐ ʇuǝɹǝɟɟıp ɯoɹɟ ʇı ʇɐ ƃuıʞool ɯ,ı ʎɐs plnoɔ noʎ oslɐ

I know, I didn't mean to make it unreadible. I guess that's a pretty good reason.

OOC: http://www.typeupsidedown.com/

I'm definitely not fogetting to vote this time. That's what I get for not paying attention to the timer, I thought we still had day left. So all that last minute thinking for a good vote them bam I come here to find it's the night phase

EF it seems strange to me as well, perhaps they're thinking along the lines of the Genesteallers from another game and thus voted off the higher ups later. Maybe they were in conflict with the more experienced in the last day phase and thought it would throw off suspicion. This is all just guessing though >_>

Farseer might have the role of the psyker and Exarch the role of the Inquisitor. Honestly we don't need to waste time on figuring out the roles of friendly characters unless we were the enemy. They should do what they are supposed to do, subtly guide their team mates to the right person to lynch. The psyker, protecting anyone who seems beneficial.

Archon is DE so obviously thats the one we do need to worry about. They already have the night kill ability as they're DE so I doubt they would be an assassin. No real idea here. Inquisitor would be overpowered and psyker fairly useless.

Chosing a quiet one in order to avoid suspicion and creating a pattern is creating a pattern in itself.
I doubt that much suspicion could be drawn from the first lynch, theres no real evidence to go by thus logically they would all be the DE. That would definitely be a fairly stupid idea to go with though.

At the moment though I'm still waiting for Vulkan's reason for why I shouldn't vote for him.

Really me suspicious because of my forgetfulness? My vote was likely going to Vulkan anyway. What's really interesting is how determined you are that Lord Loss is actually the Dark Kin, while he just seems to be suspicious to me as well. What seems really suspicious is how you've seemingly tried to push people into voting for him with you.

Or would you rather have me join the others in killing a innocent that was seemingly trying to make a more fun setting with less grimdark for all.

like I said before:
Nil ann ach cleasai, agus tá an iomad measa aige air féin.

BishopGore wrote:Understandable, but Shas'O is taking a lot of heat for trying to enjoy himself and be involved.

Anyway, I'm not saying Shas'O isn't evil, but maybe there should be a little understanding is all I'm thinking.

Plus people should be picking on Lord-Loss more

You even said Vulkan was a little odd and you were keeping an eye on him as well. I find it strange you would move on without an explanation from him, but pressure one from others.

Besides if it was a cover I wouldn't recklessly call attention to it, would I?

OOC: I'm never really awake until 10am-ish anyway anytime before that is too early to be thinking too much.

IC: Nothing wrong with racing out as fast as possible to vote, as long as it's simply putting pressure on someone. Maybe Rusty knows something we don't.

I don't really see anything wrong with that plan, just don't forget the other posts as they're used to prove patterns and your own points; only if you use them in their correct context though

Did you mean on this page or the one before it?
I don't quite see the relation to it, I was simply stating that I over estimated the remaining time and thus missed the chance to vote after inspecting everyone's comments for the longest amount of time. Then after Bishop said it seemed scummy, I replied that it would have been idiotic to even claim it then.

I guess it's patterns we're seeing that aren't really there. The existing patterns shouldn't be easy to find anyway, so it should be normal to see the easier to find ones with a higher chance of being incorrect.

Quietness might have proven to be a good Genestealler tactic in the past, but honestly it seems that hiding in the background like that only raises suspicion onto yourself now.

That's probably why the louder ones get targeted first, it's because they're probably trying something new; hiding in plain sight. In fact Drk_O showed last time that it can work out quite well if you're careful enough and have a decent backup thats willing to take a few risks to gain every advantage possible from that distraction and then pull him out of trouble at the last second. That being said there shouldn't be any assumptions on the general behaviour of the Dark Kin as they're probably not stuid enough to use the previously used methods without a few changes. That would only make them predictable.

What we must do is look for flaws in what they're saying and doing, bandwagons and such are pretty good targets as well. However silence should probably be seen as a flaw itself as we can't rule out that it's simply to try to make them invisible. In fact I probably doubt they wanted to target Mekboy with their night attack. Sure he was a innocent and thus it would be a good idea, from their perspective, to take him out, but why wouldn't they target someone with more experience that could pose a more obvious threat to them later on if they didn't remove them early enough? Like LL or EF.

I guess the aim in that was simply to try to throw off suspicion and perhaps seem a little inexperienced. An interesting tactic I supose, but it would be likely that it is just a step in their plan. Rather than picking the best one at the time they might have a plan that will later turn the more experienced innocents against each other or at least try to trick some of them.

Really though, in the end there isn't much to go on and I'm probably looking into it too much for now.

I agree. I thought I would have been killed off during that night phase, but not as likely as you or LL. Kind of surprised it didn't turn out that way. Especially you, how long has it been since you've lived past the first day? You always seem to arract them like moths unfortunatey

Trying to figure out who would have been a better target just seems like we're helping them though >_>

He did say a few pages back he had year 8 exams he was studying for so his lack of posts seems valid to me.

Nothing wrong with observing until you can think up a few questions which don't already have answers. There's a balance to it.

Don't see how it would be seen as a bandwagon that's when people jump onto whatever the current vote is with nor real reason at all

Although you were a bit suspicious in day 1 as you seemed a bit too eager to lynch LL at times. But, I doubt that was scummy as it would be idiotic for a Dark Kin anyway.

As for me I don't really have that much to say, I've got a two week break from my course starting today. But, I've got an 80 page assignment to do in that time due the week after I go back so generally the amount of time I put into this will be unchanged
Then a few others due after that I should really look up the due dates for >_>