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HQ
Big Mek: 103pts
Shorkk Attack Gun
'Eavy Armour
Ammo Runt

Wazdakka Gutsmek: 180pts

Elite:
Nobz: x3 275pts
PK x1
Cybork Body
Waaagh! Banner
Painboy with Grot Orderly

Kommandos: x9 205pts
x2 Burna
Boss Snikrot

Troops:
Gretchin: x10 40pts
Runtherd
(Squad with Big Mek)

Boyz: x9 145pts
x1 Big Shoota
Nob:
PK
'Eavy Armour
Bosspole
Trukk:

Boyz: x9 145pts
x1 Big Shoota
Nob:
PK
'Eavy Armour
Bosspole
Trukk:

Boyz: x9 145pts
x1 Big Shoota
Nob:
PK
'Eavy Armour
Bosspole
Trukk:

Warbikers: x6 185pts
Nob:
PK

Warbikers: x6 185pts
Nob:
PK

Heavy Support:
Looted Wagon: 105pts
Boomgun

Looted Wagon: 105pts
Boomgun

Killer Kans: x3 180
Big Shoota
Rokkit Launcha
Grotzooka
x3 Armour Plates
x3 Grot Rigger

Total: 1998

I would like some help b/c i will be using this list in a tournament some time this month.


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Nobz are on Bikes

Not sure what the mek is doing here, he has a SAG but no supporting unit i.e lootas. Gretchin don't add anything to the mek besides wounds.

The nobz are a total waste here. A small useless unit which has no transport. They will get wasted rapidly so I would drop these or make them nob bikers.

Kommandos I've never rated, they outflank with flamers not brilliant.

Trukks should be maxed out with boyz. Once popped 10 orks won't last long.

Not keen on looted wagons because they could end up moving, which disrupts gaming plans.

Only 3 kanz? I would add more of these as 3 isn't a lot and kanz aren't mega tough.

Personally, with wazdakka I would make this a majority biker army with loota fire support.

HQ: Big Mek
SAG, ’Eavy Armour, Ammo Runt, Cybork Body

HQ: Wazdakka Gutsmek

Elite: Nobz x3
Bike x3, PK x1, Big Choppa x1, Cybork Body x3, Waaagh! Banner x1
Painbay x1: Grot Orderly, Bike x1
(With Wazdakka Gutsmek)

Elite: Kommandos x10
Burna x2
Boss Snikrot
(With Boss Snikrot they can come in on any board edge on turn 2)

Elite: Lootas x10

Troops: Gretchin x10
(With Big Mek so that he can sit on an objective and cap it and also for wounds)

Troops: Warbikers x6
Nob: PK

Troops: Warbikers x6
Nob: PK

Troops: Boyz x12
Big Shoota x1
Nob: PK, ‘Eavy Armour, Bosspole
Trukk

Troops: Boyz x12
Big Shoota x1
Nob: PK, ‘Eavy Armour, Bosspole
Trukk

Troops: Boyz x12
Big Shoota x1
Nob: PK, ‘Eavy Armour, Bosspole
Trukk

Troops: Boyz x12
Big Shoota x1
Nob: PK, ‘Eavy Armour, Bosspole
Trukk

Heavy Support: Killer Kans x3
Big Shoota x1
Rokkit Launcha x1
Grotzooka x1
x3 Armour Plates
x3 Grot Rigger

Total- 1999 pts

Now we have a speed freaks army.

The biggest problem is the Kans. Their presence in the army is hardly going to make a dent in an opponent's list. I agree with mercer; best thing to do is remove them. Add more Lootas.

I could see a Kan list with at least 6 Kans in it, along with the customary Deff Dreads and other things associated with a Kan wall or hybrid Speed Freaks/Slogger army.

So how about i take out the kans and add kopptas with rokkit or shootas or both...



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Well I'm thinking about takeing out the nobz putting in another 10 man squad of lootas and adding 2 2 man squads def koptas

Koptas units IMO are all, one or none. If you lose one Kopta model, the unit of 2 or 3 or 4 is forced to make a Morale save that most Ork players would not like to see.

Second list has 7 troops. I assume you'll run a bike unit as fast attack?

Ok i added 3 kopta's and the lootas to the list had to take out the nob bikers but it looks a lot better now... also i copy and paste one to many times on the troop choices lol sry.


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kopta's are 1 fast slot each

Too much randomness with the SAG and looted wagon. Great potential but not really worth it IMO. I played a similar list this weekend. First turn I rolled double 1's and SAG disappears taking out my lootas and half a boyz squad for good measure. Ditto on looted wagon. Kept rolling 1's and moving forward. These random variables, while fun for casual play, are not very effective slot choices for tournament play no matter how cool they seem.

WAAAGH!!!BLITZROG wrote:Too much randomness with the SAG and looted wagon. Great potential but not really worth it IMO. I played a similar list this weekend. First turn I rolled double 1's and SAG disappears taking out my lootas and half a boyz squad for good measure. Ditto on looted wagon. Kept rolling 1's and moving forward. These random variables, while fun for casual play, are not very effective slot choices for tournament play no matter how cool they seem.

LOL...I'm of the Robert E. Lee/George Patton school of big risks and make it flashy! IMO, 2 SAGs, 3 Looted Wagons, All Trukk mounted Boyz, Zagstruk Vulcah Boyz...well you get the picture...

Anywho, the SAG is double edged sword at the extreme. It will give you moments of glory or moments of utter despair...and then be everything in between. Landing that large pie plate of doom to obliterate everything forever is the greatest joy an ork player can experience.

SAG gives you access to AP 2 weaponry, but at a high price to you if you fail.