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As per title, everybody prettymuch knows a git can ruin an otherwise fun evening of wargaming. Here's something that happened to me last night that I thought i would share:

A buddy of mine came over to play 40k since he is on spring break from college. We are playing together in a doubles tournament this saturday, so the agreement (or so i thought) beforehand was that we would play-test what we considered competitive builds against each other this week, while still trying to have fun (again, or so i thought).

His list included a lash prince, summoned greater demon, 2 squads of plague marines w/ double melta, one squad of berserkers, 3x rhinos, defiler, and 2x squads of 2 oblits.

I took a hive tyrant w/ guard, 2 broods of 2x zoeys, 3 trygons, doom of crap-my-pants in a spod, and a couple broods of genestealers.

Without doing a battle report, I have to say that when the DoM spodded in amongst his infantry on foot and he was forced to take some Ld checks at Ld10, he started grumbling. when i then used the shooting attack from DoM he just started cursing as he took his cover saves. When his turn came and it was up to him to take those leadership checks once again, he started ranting and raving, saying "if you ever put this f*****g guy on the table against me again i refuse to play" "he shouldn't get to kill my guys just by standing there!" "he's a 'win' button", and basically all kinds of emotional bullcrap.

At that point, i quit playing. I finished out the game, but i just did simple perfunctory movements, rolled dice in response to his assaults/shooting, etc. However, that outburst sucked all the fun out of that game for me.

so now i have to ask the dakka community: Was I wrong for putting a unit in my army that has a good ability? Are we as tyranid players only allowed to bring sub-par choices to the table for fear of actually winning a game and making people hate us? I am starting to get a feel both from my local meta and the internet forums that tyranids are a hated army and simply supposed to lose, or else we are being cheesy and whatnot. I get no such feeling of ire towards the IG players who spam vendettas, but once i put a modified zoanthrope on the table who sucks out souls I am the bad guy.

Thoughts?

Not your fault CSM suck as is. And the DoM is put in the rules for a reason. To be used. Tell your friend I said "F*ck off!", will yah? =p

One thing you mentioned was your buddy was in from spring break... he's likely been out of the loop for a while and I can see where the Doom would be a shock.

Maybe a little prep for him before the game started explaining the thing and it's capabilities would have softened the blow.

Granted your buddy was being a poopy britches... had he seen the new Nid Codex before this game?

He had heard of it, read forums and such, but i think the "Sticker Shock" of seeing it in game really took him for a loop. To his credit, he tabled my army on turn 6 due to good decisions on his part and bad ones on mine. I took the all-too-familiar "divide and conquer" approach that doesn't really jive with Tyranids, while he focused on one of my units at a time until he took the punch out of my army. I would like to say that the main reason i lost was that i really fell out of the game around turn 2, mentally, but 40k has so many more factors than that.

I think I will keep fielding the doom in lists where i can fit it in, the more people see it on the table the more they will (hopefully) get used to it and stop bitching so much before they shoot it with a melta/krak missile/lascannon.

-tetris

O DoM I remember the first time i was destroyed by it, it was an amazing game my buddy spodded right in between two grey hunter squads and my long fang squad who had hung back just in case he spodded anyone in back of my army, but i wasn't expecting him! Him with a group of genesteelers and those two spores (who are a huge threat on their own) destroyed my three squads and i just barely managed to kill the genesteelers Luckily my troops tied him up long enough for the rest of my army to get a good distance away and turn around and shot him (which I wasn't able to place 8 wounds xD) but he did no further damage to my army.

Over all i think hes an interesting character, I love the challenge and the fear of him being on the board. Your friend shouldn't get pissy he should try to think up new ways to take him out, nothing is more satisfying then killing something that is that deadly with a plan you thought up.

Although after the game my friend said he wasn't going to try to use DoM again cause thats not how he likes to kill things, he much prefers to have a swarm of guants devour your troops or some warriors destroy you.

Right now I like using him sparingly in most friendly games due to the knee-jerk reactions he causes.

A list i'm fiddling with now that can add/remove the doom as necessary includes 2 tervigons, 2 trygons, and 2 carnifexes @1500. The remainder points are filled in usually with zoeys or hive guard. it's been almost 2 months since the codex dropped and i'm still searching for my "sweet spot" army list, or ways to field the majority of the codex in combinations that actually work well together. I'm jaded on Hive Tyrants at the moment, but in 2000 points or higher I will field a Swarmlord (similar knee-jerk reaction in close combat with that fella, instakill and re-roll invuln saves...ouch)

tetrisphreak wrote:Right now I like using him sparingly in most friendly games due to the knee-jerk reactions he causes.

But thats when its the most fun In a 500 point game i slapped down a vindicator against my friend who plays orks and the look on his face was so awesome