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Slippery Scout Biker





Washington State

I went with some new Crimson Fists Shoulder pads recently and decided I don't like them on my yellow Imperial Fists and just want to use plastic shoulder pads and transfers.

Does anyone have a good way to break the Citidel brand Super Glue bond (I doubt the brand matters, but who knows?) between the space marines left arm and the metal shoulder pad?
   
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Just pull on it. Cyanoacrylic will break right off if you exert enough pressure.

You'll have to sand down the area around it though to get the best fit.
   
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Slippery Scout Biker





Washington State

I pulled on it like crazy and these are not coming off. The CA glue usually wants to be twisted to break, it's just that with a marine shoulder pad I don't have a way to twist. :(

Do any chemicals or solvents affect the glue? I thought I remember something I used to use years ago to strip models would affect the CA glue but now I don't recall what that was.
   
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Freeze it and hit it suddenly, superglue has really poor sheer strength.
   
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Acetone will dissolve Superglue. It will also dissolve polystyrene, so use it carefully.

You can buy acetone in the form of nail polish remover.

Test it on a sprue before you go to work on your models.

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Malta

well, personally i heat up a knitting needle and 'melt' around the outer crust of the glue, it works but it takes time, but then again the nail polish remover is much safer...

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Middlesbrough, UK

Whenever I need to break s Superglue bond I honestly just use water. I've recently started re-basing a lot of metal models, and all I'm doing to remove them from the bases is submerging the base in cold water for around 30 seconds. If there's no difference, I submerge it a bit longer. Obviously, this method will dissolve any other superglue joins, so be careful where the water gets. Also, the superglue may leave a white discolouration where the join has been but aside from that it's worked fine for me in the past.

On something as precise as a Marine's shoulder pad, I'm not sure if it'd work very well.

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Osaka, Japan

I was thinking of using the Crimson Fists shoulder pads on my Imperial Fists. Can I ask why you don't like them?
   
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Slippery Scout Biker





Washington State

I don't care for how the shoulders and heads are not identically sized. The heads are a tad smaller, but the shoulder is a tad larger. The metal shoulders edge is also more defined and it is wider. It looks unbalanced to me.

The other thing that I dislike is that the Fist icon painted dark on a light background kind of washes out. They would look much better on a Crimson Fist over an Imperial Fist in my opinion. The fist needs to be bright ona dark background to do it any justice. It just not what I hoped for.

I could spend alot of time trying to make the Fist 'pop' more but I just prefer the stenciled style of the decal in the end.

See attached.





   
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Hmmmm. I was only planning on using the shoulder pads, but this is definitely food for thought. Your pictures will make it much easier for me to make a decision. Thank you!
   
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Isn't there a purpose shoulder pad kit for the Imperial Fists?

   
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Off-subject the SM look great, on-subject the shoulder pad look ok to me I really don't think it makes a deference. But that's just my thought

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Slippery Scout Biker





Washington State

You don't think the embossed pad looks noticibly larger? Maybe I'm seeing more wrong here than there is.
   
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I think if the paint was better on the emblem it would look a lot more natural
   
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It looks like it, but it might be a case of the black against a VERY clean yellow, while the other shoulder pads Yellow is more dirtied, merging it in with the black enough to distort it to the eyes.

At least thats my theory- try to 'mellow the yellow' by making it a bit more dirty, and then lets see whats up


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actually, looking at more, the thing is just bigger, and doesnt fit as snugly on the shoulder as a regular shoulder pad, adding to it.

If you have an electric dremmel, you can try to (carefully!) 'whittle' the metal using the side of the dremmel bit while drilling. Its kind of a tough thing to get used to, but it can be uber useful for 'editing' metal bitz which just arnt right, and only need a slight adjustment.

However, have a bit of green stuff on hand too - just in case

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Portsmouth UK

I found the DA pads are too small.
With these larger ones & your note on the thickness of the outer rim, an easy fix for both issues is to sand them down with a peice of wet&dry paper.

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Osaka, Japan

I think the metal pads have clear fit issues, which are perhaps inevitable. Decals have their own issues too though. I'm gonna stick with decals for my test models and see how they go before I order 40 shoulder pads. If I do end up going for the metal shoulder pads I'll have to be careful with how I pose the models. It seems that your marine's pose is exacerbating the fit problem, as there is a clear gap between the pad and the body. Were you able to close this gap on other models with their arms less outstretched?
   
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Washington State

Temujin wrote:I think the metal pads have clear fit issues, which are perhaps inevitable. Decals have their own issues too though. I'm gonna stick with decals for my test models and see how they go before I order 40 shoulder pads. If I do end up going for the metal shoulder pads I'll have to be careful with how I pose the models. It seems that your marine's pose is exacerbating the fit problem, as there is a clear gap between the pad and the body. Were you able to close this gap on other models with their arms less outstretched?


I thought of this too and feel that the pose can help lessen the impact of the size issue. I'm not so worried about the look of the Fist icon as much as I am about the size and fit of the entire shoulder pad. I will try to darken down the yellow a little more to give it more depth though.

Unfortunately the way I paint my Fists I need to assemble and paint the arms seperately and this makes it more challengeing to get it to hug the front of the body. I will see if any of the other arms have pads that have a better rotation towards the chest. That might help the fit issue I'm seeing.
   
 
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