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so this is list made to scenario agenst nids everything has Won and only two mc or anything w/ av value
and its objective game and no ds or outflank but the bugs have 500 more points and gome in wawes weard game huh?
lots of daka to dring down gaunts and cannons to warriors. Comissars will keep lines in check and squads will combine to twenty man squads.
commands will be acting like bug remover and order guys. nothing really wat you think apes?



1 Lord Commissar (HQ)
Bolt Pistol; Power Weapon; Carapace Armour;

4 Company Command Squad (HQ)
Flamer (x2)
Carapace Armour; Regimental Standard; Vox Caster

veteran squad
granadiers
shotguns+3xflamers
Vox Caster

1st Infantry Platoon (Troops)

4 Platoon Command Squad
Close Combat Weapon; Lasgun (x1); Flamer (x2); Frag Grenades; Flak
Armour; Vox Caster

10 Infantry Squad #1
Grenade Launcher;Vox Caster
Commissar

10 Infantry Squad #2
Grenade Launcher

10 Infantry Squad #3
Grenade Launcher+Vox Caster
1 Commissar

10 Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher

2nd Infantry Platoon (Troops)

4 Platoon Command Squad
Flamer (x3); Vox Caster

10 Infantry Squad #1
Grenade Launcher+Vox Caster
1 Commissar

10 Infantry Squad #2
Grenade Launcher

10 Infantry Squad #3
Grenade Launcher+Vox Caster
1 Commissar

10 Infantry Squad
; Grenade Launcher


3th Infantry Platoon (Troops)

4 Platoon Command Squad
Flamer (x2)+Vox Caster

10 Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher+Vox Caster
1 Commissar

10 Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher

10 Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher+Vox Caster
1 Commissar

10 Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher

3 Heavy Weapon Squad (Troops) @ 75 Pts
Commander: 1st Platoon heavy bolters (x3);

3 Heavy Weapon Squad (Troops) @ 75 Pts
Commander:2nd Platoon ; Autocannon (x3);

3 Heavy Weapon Squad (Troops) @ 75 Pts
Commander: 3th Platoon heavy bolters (x3);


1 Leman Russ Punisher (Heavy Support) @ 180 Pts
Punisher Gatling Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter



Models in Army: 189
Total Army Cost: 1750

i know its bloody wall of text
edit now its little smaller wall

lol Damn it man you dont have to list the sargents seperately and you dont have to list basic equipment so do that and halve your indomitable wall.

And i cant really read the entire thing through but i praise your devotion and i must say for a gaurd foot army creed and kell are a must i think

army builder does that so cleaning will begin

I did read it all the way through, hard as it was... And I like it!

However... there aren't enough heavy weapons in the list.

huh its cleaned now heavy weaponds are nice but i think massive lasgun barrage can replase that with orders and massive 170 rapid firering lasguns will do something and those autocannons will keep his tyrants from my lines

I would have just liked to see more Heavy Bolters I think, otherwise lasgun fire can definitely do the trick if they don't have tons of MC's.

what abaut having 3xautocannons and rest heavy bolters

Seems reasonable if you don't expect but 1-2 MC's. Lasguns and HB's can take on the rest.

Zain~

Awesome kudos for shortening it.

Awsome list but why not a russ?

if you have the points somehow why not pask in a punisher with 3x heavy bolters also? that means you could take on any gaunt's and come out on top

i dont have punisher and it would not have won so
yeah and i have no idea how to get those points and if a had them i would have vets/brimstone for more orders
edit so i got punisher hope its worth it

If you are planning to divide each platoon into two 20 man squads, why do you have three commissars per platoon? Couldn't those 105 points be used better elsewhere?

its result of copy+paste i will update this tomarrow

its done and updated

Bearing in mind that this is for a scenario against nids:
Sorry if you've already bought it, but I think the punisher is a really poor choice. It can only hurt little bugs - a normal leman russ will paste just as many little guys, and can also sweep whole squads of warriors off the table, hurt MCs, etc.

I think the list would really benefit from more heavy weapons - against tyranids missile launchers and heavy bolters are the way to go. Autocannons actually aren't that great for this matchup, because they're worse than h. bolters against gaunts, and far worse than missiles/lascannons against warriors and MCs.

Range will be your friend in this kind of game - I think GLs are a great choice for your infantry squads, but flamers should be restricted to small command squads, so drop the veterans and get more platoon infantry or HWSs. The reason is this - you want the flamer command units behind lines of infantry. That way, the tyranids will get close and either waste time shooting the command squads through a cover save (so he can't assault the infantry in front that turn) or shoot/assault the infantry line - the infantry will get cleaned up, and you can move the flame units in and put a ton of wounds on the tyranids in your turn.

Finally, I think the Lord commissar is a bit useless - the regimental standard should be sufficient to keep the troops in line. Perhaps the CCS and/or the veteran unit should be given plasma guns - since they're BS4, that gives you a couple units which can efficiently take out your opponents MCs. Right now you have no high-strength, low-AP weapons, which will be necessary for that.

so i should put hw teams in punishers place and more man to the front lord comissar was ld boost is nice must think of that plasmas are little too risky for me

Your list makes it seem you're a bit confused about how a lord commissar works - he's completely seperate from the officer + command squad entry. The reason I don't like the lord commissar is because he's so expensive. Instead of one CCS and one lord commissar like you have now, you could have 2 CCS, each with a regimental standard and a heavy weapon - that would give you more shooting power and a much bigger area in which your guardsmen would reroll all morale tests.

One nice thing about the Lord Commissar is that the orders are taken on his leadership, which is nice for HWS since they can't have a vox.

I'd consider missile launchers instead of hb for your army. They do ok versus swarms but they also help allot against come of the bigger non MC nids. Warriors, Tropes, lictors and ravenors all get instant deathed by missile launchers.

When I blob I usually do groups of 30, which would let you cut points from extra commissars and voxs. It might also be a good idea since the CCS is only going to be able to issue Fire On My Mark! or Bring it Down! twice a turn. But it's entirely up to you.

I'd think about giving the heavy weapons to the infantry squads instead of making them into hw squads. HW squads tend to be fragile high priority targets in a foots logger list. Putting them in blobed infantry squads also will increase your chances of successfully issuing orders to them.

I'd drop the Lord Commissar of another CCS. You might also want to look into some of the IG Special Characters. I think Checkov gives a buble of stubborn, which when combined with a CCS regimental standard will do the about the same thing as a Lord Commissar without having to execute as many guardsmen.

I wouldn't take a punisher gatling cannon (however tempting I always find it) For me, it has too little AP for my liking.
Having said that, for an infantry army, this is quite a list.

Well done!