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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 01:05:46
Subject: Monolith - Invincible versus glance stacking?
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Raging Ravener
Great Falls, MT
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So in my last thread I asked a question about Gauss Flux "hating" One of the posters there said something which i think holds some weight.
I will start by explaining the glance stacking as I am interpreting it.
A glancing hit can only achieve a "destroyed" result by stacking multiple result from the vehicle destroyed table.
If a 4 is rolled for an already immobilized vehicle, it becomes a "weapon destroyed result". If there are no weapons left, the result is treated as a "Destroyed-Wrecked" result.
The Monolith has a single weapon which cannot be destroyed. The Gauss Flux Arc. For every weapon destroyed result, the weapon receives -1 on it's D6 shots. The weapon is never actually destroyed. I can choose to continue firing, I will simply be unable to actually get any shots when I roll the D6.
So this means no matter what, the Monolith will always have one weapon remaining. Thus, it cannot be destroyed by glancing it, nor by rolling 3s or 4s on penetrating hits.
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 01:10:53
Subject: Monolith - Invincible versus glance stacking?
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Irked Necron Immortal
On the train headin down to delicious town
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You are completely correct...the monolith cannot be glanced to death as ALL weapon destroyed results simply give a -1 penalty to the flux arc...the particle beam is a weapon as well i believe (fired thru the power matrix)....but yes the lith can never be glanced to death...
Kind of funny when you think about how we necrons were once the kings of glancing others to death...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 01:13:11
Subject: Re:Monolith - Invincible versus glance stacking?
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Raging Ravener
Great Falls, MT
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Actually, the particle whip is not a listed weapon, it is an ability(think like a psychic power. they can't be "destroyed") of a non weapon piece of equipment on the monolith, and as such cannot be destroyed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 03:33:50
Subject: Monolith - Invincible versus glance stacking?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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In that case. Yes, it can be destroyed, and in fact, you don't even need to hurt the particle whip, as it isn't a weapon. Therefore, it isn't affected by weapon destroyed, and therefore, that's one less weapon to destroy, leading to the fact that the Monolith is even easier to kill than expected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 04:18:32
Subject: Monolith - Invincible versus glance stacking?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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JSK-Fox wrote:In that case. Yes, it can be destroyed, and in fact, you don't even need to hurt the particle whip, as it isn't a weapon. Therefore, it isn't affected by weapon destroyed, and therefore, that's one less weapon to destroy, leading to the fact that the Monolith is even easier to kill than expected.
Except, the one weapon that it does have (Gauss Flux Arc) cannot be destroyed, instead of being destroyed it suffers an alternate penalty, but no accumulation of Weapon Destroyed results can truly destroy the Gauss Flux Arc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 04:20:10
Subject: Monolith - Invincible versus glance stacking?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Drunkspleen wrote:JSK-Fox wrote:In that case. Yes, it can be destroyed, and in fact, you don't even need to hurt the particle whip, as it isn't a weapon. Therefore, it isn't affected by weapon destroyed, and therefore, that's one less weapon to destroy, leading to the fact that the Monolith is even easier to kill than expected.
Except, the one weapon that it does have (Gauss Flux Arc) cannot be destroyed, instead of being destroyed it suffers an alternate penalty, but no accumulation of Weapon Destroyed results can truly destroy the Gauss Flux Arc.
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