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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 17:24:25
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Krielstone Bearer
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Hi
I've done modeling IG Veteran squad with 6 shotgun and 3 melta.
Now time for sergeant.
I know shotgun squad is not so much worth but anyway I'm loving it.
I'll add demo-man(I dont know correct name in english. Cuz I play in japanese codex) upgrade to this squad.
Is there any good upgrade for this sergent?
Powerfist?Powersword?
BTW,If I add demo-man upgrade,sergeant can carry demo-charge?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 18:16:44
Subject: Re:loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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The veteran squad I always use looks like this:
6 shotgun veterans, 1 shotgun sergeant and 3 meltagunners and I always buy a chimera without any upgrades. Meltas almost always work well but shotguns are worse than lasguns. It doesn't matter though because I like the shotguns for their looks. The chimera is essential because the guns are short ranged.
Sergeant should take either a shotgun to add some dakka or simply the pistol if you want a tiny amount of close combat ability. Powerfists and power weapons can easily make the squad too expensive. After all, a melta squad is bound to do suicide missions and it is a primary target to the enemy.
If you take the demolitions upgrade, the demolition charge cannot be used by the sergeant since he is a veteran SERGEANT, not only veteran).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 18:41:01
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Slaanesh Havoc with Blastmaster
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I think that the powerfist shotgun combination works well together, though. If you want to keep the option of assaulting then you'll want to make that assault good. The real questions is do you want that option, which I don't know the answer to.
But I disagree that shotguns are worse than las straight up. For vets in a vendetta they are definitely better IMO. There are very few times where you will be able to take advantage of the 1 extra shot at long range and will usually be out of range of FRFSRF.
On the other hand for vets in a Chimera that are meant to stay near your commanders, it's another story, because they will be able to stay put and fire more often, and if you get out you can often choose to FRFSRF.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 18:46:12
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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No offence,but doesn't Japanese people like to charge into combat?
So give him a power fist and toss him into the fury!
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What is the joy of life?
To die knowing that your task is done
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 18:51:13
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Krielstone Bearer
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Thx reply.
I see.
Well,I use shotgun because its cool.
So I really dont care shotgun is good or not.
But I want to do best while using shotgun.
I'll have chimera.
Maybe Powerfist or nothing is good option it seem.
But I need more opinion. So tell me Automatically Appended Next Post: Tony the guardsman wrote:No offence,but doesn't Japanese people like to charge into combat?
So give him a power fist and toss him into the fury!
LOL
I like charge. I think other japanese do like charge.
But powerfist is too slow for it dosent it? :p
Powersword is better because its useful when need to do seppuku.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/03/18 18:53:30
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 19:02:10
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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Well,I choose power fist cuz I like to smash thing with 3 strength 6 power attacks
And I've spend most of my life dealing with MCs,I got smarter over time Automatically Appended Next Post: Powr swords are weak
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/03/18 19:03:36
What is the joy of life?
To die knowing that your task is done
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 19:38:49
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Tony the guardsman wrote:Well,I choose power fist cuz I like to smash thing with 3 strength 6 power attacks
And I've spend most of my life dealing with MCs,I got smarter over time
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Powr swords are weak 
Remember that Sir Motor has three meltaguns in the squad so unless he runs into several monsters he should be fine. 3 meltaguns can do some serious damage against the most common monsters and the monsters can even die provided something supports the veterans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 21:04:50
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Sir Motor wrote:
Powersword is better because its useful when need to do seppuku.
Yes, but consider how awesome it would be to commit seppuku with a powerfist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 21:41:31
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
California
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It depends on your metagame.
A powerfist is nice against, say, mechanized Orks - you'll be able to cut them down on the charge. Against more horde-like opposition, or units that will just butcher you in CC, keep the squad cheap and don't take a fist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/18 23:10:39
Subject: Re:loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Fixture of Dakka
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i'd say just a Shotgun for the Sgt.
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"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/19 04:24:52
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd say keep it cheap, just a shotgun. Vets die quick, especially meltavets. However, having meltas, demos, and a powerfist means you are going to do alot of damage before you die.
Only a veteran can take the demo charge, not the veteran sgt.
Shotguns are just as good as lasguns, and an excellent choice for melta/demo squads, as it matches the range/type with the meltas and you'll want to be close for the demo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/19 04:40:20
Subject: loadout for Shotogun Veteran squad sergent(IG)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I would add another vote for 'keep it cheap'. Really, what's a vet squad for? To bag something big and nasty and then try to survive, right? Why try and half cover all the bases and not ending up being able to do any of them well.
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