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So a long time ago I had started doing test paint schemes for a necron army. I had decided to go with a copper base for them. Other things happened and I never got around to it. I've recently started digging out the models and I go to the local shop to buy some copper paint and the following happens.

Check GW paint, no copper. What, huh, when did they get rid of copper. Walk over to the vallejo rack, well there's a slot right there for copper it's just empty, so I walk up to the counter and ask them to order me a bottle. I'm sorry vallejo doesn't make copper anymore. What the hell. Alright well privateer has a lot of metal jacks they must have copper, right, nope. Denied. What the heck is going on here.

If anyone out there still uses copper what line do they get it from?

Why do you have to have a paint called "copper?"
I would bet money that if P3 made a copper it would be completely different than a GW copper. Just get a metal color, and a brown, red or bronze, and mix them together. Judge the paint on how it looks rather than looking for a paint called "copper." If you're OK with mixing paint I suggest mixing tin bitz with something else, but if you don't want to mix anything try tin bitz drybrushed with something lighter as a highlight?

how handy are you?

http://www.ehow.com/how_4854370_make-copper-paint.html

surely brazen bra... I mean dwarf bronze would work as copper? Maybe mix in abit of shining gold? Or for a darker look maybe boltgun metal? I don't know?

Warmaster, I guess you could buy the Vallejo or similar colour online?

Rutteger1 wrote:Why do you have to have a paint called "copper?"
I would bet money that if P3 made a copper it would be completely different than a GW copper. Just get a metal color, and a brown, red or bronze, and mix them together. Judge the paint on how it looks rather than looking for a paint called "copper." If you're OK with mixing paint I suggest mixing tin bitz with something else, but if you don't want to mix anything try tin bitz drybrushed with something lighter as a highlight?

I prefer to lay down the basecoats for models using a single paint colour. Not having to mix colours for the basecoat helps me make sure that the tone is consistent between models (although of course other colours get added for highlights and shading, but the simpler the mix the easier it is to replicate). Perhaps the OP feels the same and Tin Bitz isn't the right shade.

(Although I agree that, when you find a colour you like, it might not necessarily be called 'copper'.)

maybe this would work for you.

http://www.plaidcraftexpress.com/Product/FolkArt+Metallics+2+oz.aspx

they have a pure copper and antique copper colors. you can pick these up at hobby lobby or michael's in the states. I have used this brand metallics on minis before and it worked fine.

Magos Explorator wrote:
Warmaster, I guess you could buy the Vallejo or similar colour online?

Rutteger1 wrote:Why do you have to have a paint called "copper?"
I would bet money that if P3 made a copper it would be completely different than a GW copper. Just get a metal color, and a brown, red or bronze, and mix them together. Judge the paint on how it looks rather than looking for a paint called "copper." If you're OK with mixing paint I suggest mixing tin bitz with something else, but if you don't want to mix anything try tin bitz drybrushed with something lighter as a highlight?

I prefer to lay down the basecoats for models using a single paint colour. Not having to mix colours for the basecoat helps me make sure that the tone is consistent between models (although of course other colours get added for highlights and shading, but the simpler the mix the easier it is to replicate). Perhaps the OP feels the same and Tin Bitz isn't the right shade.

(Although I agree that, when you find a colour you like, it might not necessarily be called 'copper'.)

That's what I was trying to say. Just because it's not "copper" doesn't mean it doesn't look like copper.

jerseydevil wrote:maybe this would work for you.

http://www.plaidcraftexpress.com/Product/FolkArt+Metallics+2+oz.aspx

they have a pure copper and antique copper colors. you can pick these up at hobby lobby or michael's in the states. I have used this brand metallics on minis before and it worked fine.

I haven't had a bad experience with Folk Art Metallics. I don't like a few of their other colors (whites and browns specifically) but the metallics are fine.

jerseydevil wrote:maybe this would work for you.

http://www.plaidcraftexpress.com/Product/FolkArt+Metallics+2+oz.aspx

they have a pure copper and antique copper colors. you can pick these up at hobby lobby or michael's in the states. I have used this brand metallics on minis before and it worked fine.

I use this paint all the time. The copper is one of my favorite colors. It really is a good color, covers very well, and is ready right out of the tube.

Just stay away from the flesh colors. They dry with large flakes. Dilute it, and it is too thin. But, for $.99, their metalics are great.

I went to the local michael's and they didn't have the plaid craft but they did have the folk art, I picked one up and will try it out.

Thanks for the tips.

Warmaster wrote:I went to the local michael's and they didn't have the plaid craft but they did have the folk art, I picked one up and will try it out.

Thanks for the tips.

I think Plaid is just the manufacturer, folk art is the paint line. but I belive they have a "Plaid" line of paint, and it is not good at all. the fold art line is much better (at least the metallics are). and thier Pure Black is really good too. hope this helped.

Warmaster wrote:Walk over to the vallejo rack, well there's a slot right there for copper it's just empty, so I walk up to the counter and ask them to order me a bottle. I'm sorry vallejo doesn't make copper anymore.

Sounds to me like the good people at your LGS don't know what they're talking about.

Vallejo DOES still make Copper. It's in their model color range (International number 999 or US number M176). They also have an alcohold based copper (International number 797 or US number M218).

They also STILL make Hammered Copper in their Game Color range.

You can find it here: http://www.thewarstore.com/modelcolors166_220.html

Or here for the Game color range: http://www.thewarstore.com/VallejoGameColorsPageI.html


Hope that helps.

Now go yell at your LGS clerk for their poor customer service.

Vallejo still makes a copper in the VGC line which are clones of GW paints. It's Hammered Copper 059. They even have Patina paint if you fancy some weathering called Verdigris Glaze 096 also in the Game Color line.