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So I played in a tournament, and there is an IG player who was running 2 inquistor lords with 2 mystics each. In affect he created a "no deep strike bubble" by giving his mystics anti deep strike bubble over to a squadron of Leman Russ Punishers effectly claming that he had about 130 shots to destroy any incoming deepstriking units. He also claimed that this worked on outflanking units as well because of some piece of war gear he had.

Now, I did find that on page 21 of the demon hunter codex, you can only field 1 inquisitor lord in an IG army.

So my question is, is this tactic legal, and if it is, how the hell do you defeat it.

Yeah it's legal...he must have taken a normal elite Inquisitor as well.

Inquisitors are squishy...shoot them...then deepstrike.

The effect works to a range of 4D6 and only works if the Inquisitor has 2 mystics with him (With 1 Mystic, only the Inquisitor's squad is allowed to take the shots)...so keep that in mind.

Callidus "A Word in Your Ear" might be able to move the Inquisitor out of range so he can't give the ability to the squadron, but if the guy plays it like me...that Inquisitor is sitting safely between or behind those tanks.

What wargear?

I would have let you deepstrike...and torn apart your units.

Deepstrike a Land Raider and laugh at his Punishers.

What, you're not playing Blood Angels yet?


Yeah, he can toast deep striking units in the mystics' 4d6" bubble. I would recommend shooting the Inquisitors or deep striking anything with an AV and making a mockery of those punishers.

I play nids so its a bit tough for me to ignore those shots.

Do you guys know if it works on outflankers as well?

It shouldn't work for ouflankers...that's why I want to know what Wargear the guy said he had.

I really, really doubt there is wargear frmo a 3rd ed codex that works on Outflankers, a concept first put in place in 5th ed. In short - ask them to show you where this is in their rules, by showing you in their codex.

It ONLY works on Deepstriking units.

The only DH wargear that comes close to mentioning Outflanking units is the Auspex...because Outflankers are technically Infiltrators...

But, that only works pre-game anyways and wouldn't matter...

ductvader wrote:The only DH wargear that comes close to mentioning Outflanking units is the Auspex...because Outflankers are technically Infiltrators...

No, they are not. Deffkoptas can outflank, so Can Vendettas. Neither has the Infiltrate Rule.

ductvader wrote:The only DH wargear that comes close to mentioning Outflanking units is the Auspex...because Outflankers are technically Infiltrators...

But, that only works pre-game anyways and wouldn't matter...

Wrong, Infioltrate OR Scout is *one* way to gain Outflank, however when you arrive via Outflank you are NOT Infiltrating / Scouting. Entirely wrong train of thought there.

There is no piece of wargear that allows the Mystics to work on Outflanking units. And I use executioners instead of punishers..................

What about Guard wargear or rules for the actual tanks? Or commanders or anything?

I am curious and generally not too knowledgeable about everything IG has.

ductvader wrote:What about Guard wargear or rules for the actual tanks? Or commanders or anything?

I am curious and generally not too knowledgeable about everything IG has.

Then to improve your knowlege, I suggest purchacing the codex and giving it a read.

Gwar! wrote:

ductvader wrote:What about Guard wargear or rules for the actual tanks? Or commanders or anything?

I am curious and generally not too knowledgeable about everything IG has.

Then to improve your knowlege, I suggest purchacing the codex and giving it a read.

One guard player to another, send me a PM and I can tell you about a 3rd option that costs less, and will help you make informed decisions before you spend your hard earned money.

The piece of wargear was most likely an Auspex. Which allows a free shot at any infiltrators that deploy within 4D6. How that would work with outflankers idk.

It wouldnt, as has already been covered - Infiltrate /= Outflank.

Just remember, all Infiltrators can outflank but not all outflankers are Infiltrators.

Shooting the inquisitors and mystics is a nice idea. Except when they put them in transports, and put the transports in ruins. Not only increasing the area that is protected (as you now measure from the hull), but giving the tank a cover save. Shooting the vehicle they're in isn't always an option, like when you're playing daemons...

dancingcricket wrote:Shooting the inquisitors and mystics is a nice idea. Except when they put them in transports, and put the transports in ruins. Not only increasing the area that is protected (as you now measure from the hull), but giving the tank a cover save. Shooting the vehicle they're in isn't always an option, like when you're playing daemons...

You mean, Dæmons have a Hard Time against a Dæmonhunter Inquisitor? HERESY AND LIES!

dancingcricket wrote:Shooting the inquisitors and mystics is a nice idea. Except when they put them in transports, and put the transports in ruins. Not only increasing the area that is protected (as you now measure from the hull), but giving the tank a cover save. Shooting the vehicle they're in isn't always an option, like when you're playing daemons...

Only if the ruins actually cover 50% of the facing, otherwise no cover save.

Gwar! wrote:

dancingcricket wrote:Shooting the inquisitors and mystics is a nice idea. Except when they put them in transports, and put the transports in ruins. Not only increasing the area that is protected (as you now measure from the hull), but giving the tank a cover save. Shooting the vehicle they're in isn't always an option, like when you're playing daemons...

You mean, Dæmons have a Hard Time against a Dæmonhunter Inquisitor? HERESY AND LIES!

I wouldn't mind so much if I was facing a DH list, instead of an IG list, or SM list. But as often as they show up, it would seem they're recruiting for the position by press gang when they recruit the IG forces...

And it's not that they're effective against daemons, but shut down mycetic spores, drop pod lists, Veil of Darkness, and put a damper on swooping hawks. For as little as they cost, it's a bit too useful.

Gwar! wrote:

dancingcricket wrote:Shooting the inquisitors and mystics is a nice idea. Except when they put them in transports, and put the transports in ruins. Not only increasing the area that is protected (as you now measure from the hull), but giving the tank a cover save. Shooting the vehicle they're in isn't always an option, like when you're playing daemons...

You mean, Dæmons have a Hard Time against a Dæmonhunter Inquisitor? HERESY AND LIES!

Or God forbid that a Daemon player actually use fast attack or winged units or figure out how to deep strike more than 4D6 inches away from an inquisitor.

But who am I kidding? Daemon players don't buy fast attack models.

I have a question. What is an IG player using a DH codex? I thought all new 5th edtion codecii can only use their own codex and that's it.

How can he be using an IG codex and a DH codex? I can see if his army was DH and using the IG codex, but not the other way around. Since you said he was a IG player, is there these rules in the IG codex then?

Davor wrote:I have a question. What is an IG player using a DH codex? I thought all new 5th edtion codecii can only use their own codex and that's it.

How can he be using an IG codex and a DH codex? I can see if his army was DH and using the IG codex, but not the other way around. Since you said he was a IG player, is there these rules in the IG codex then?

You thought wrong, simply put. The DH/WH Codexes say the other Hunters, IG, SM and all Variant Chapters can take them as Allies, so they can.

But where does it say in the IG codex they can? Since it dosn't say it in the IG codex, then he or she can't do it then.

Davor wrote:But where does it say in the IG codex they can? Since it dosn't say it in the IG codex, then he or she can't do it then.

Well the 3rd ed IG codex didn't say it either, looks like Allies were never able to be taken then yes?

The DH Codex says you can take them in an IG Army, so you can.

Where did I read that allies can't be taken in 5th edtion then? I know I read it somewhere but can't find it now. I guess it was just posters saying that now.

You are probably thinking of the other way around, where the WH/DH codexes can induct units from IG and SM but in the newest codexes some units changed names or disappeared altogether making them impossible to include in a WH/DH army.

solkan wrote:

Gwar! wrote:

dancingcricket wrote:Shooting the inquisitors and mystics is a nice idea. Except when they put them in transports, and put the transports in ruins. Not only increasing the area that is protected (as you now measure from the hull), but giving the tank a cover save. Shooting the vehicle they're in isn't always an option, like when you're playing daemons...

You mean, Dæmons have a Hard Time against a Dæmonhunter Inquisitor? HERESY AND LIES!

Or God forbid that a Daemon player actually use fast attack or winged units or figure out how to deep strike more than 4D6 inches away from an inquisitor.

But who am I kidding? Daemon players don't buy fast attack models.

Actually I bring 3 fast attack choices. All screamers for much needed anti-tank. No, I don't bring heavies.