monstrous creatures and force weapons

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**The Angry Commissar**

i have always understood that a successful attack from a from force weapon kills monstrous creatures. am i correct because my friend says i am wrong?

**Uriels_Flame**

Depends upon the wording of the weapon and the abilities of the MC.

Some weapons say "cause instant death" while some MC have "immune to instant death". Some say "remove model from play" and some MC say "ouch that fething sucks".

**HiveFleet**

a force weapon will cause instant death on anything with a successful wound followed by a Ld test.

of course, if the said model has eternal warrior, then it laughs at the forceweapon

**warboss**

the creature itself would have to have a rule preventing instant death. simply being a monstrous creature doesn't give you any protection from instant death outside of the normal high toughness those models generally have. tyranids USED TO have a blanket protection from it and they are the army most likely to field MC but that is no longer true with the current codex.

**Orkestra**

Force Weapons work on anything that is not an Eternal Warrior/otherwise immune to instant death. Monstrous creatures are not immune to instant death unless they specifically have Eternal Warrior.

**nosferatu1001**

In addition, Daemon Hunter Force Weapons "slay outright" anything, entirely bypassing Eternal Warrior or similar immunities from instant death.

This is because they follow their rules for Force Weapons.

**reds8n**

The Angry Commissar wrote:i have always understood that a successful attack from a from force weapon kills monstrous creatures. am i correct because my friend says i am wrong?

Is your friend perhaps getting confused with gargantuan creatures, like some of the FW models ? They cannot be insta killed by force weapons.

**Twalks**

They can be killed by stupid lucas and that edited ruling tho.....

**Gwar!**

Just remember SYnapse no longer grants immunity to instant death.

**The Angry Commissar**

thanks for clearing that up for me. cheers.

**s2ua7**

Ok, because I am blind, I cant find where it states that the Nemesis Force Weapons slay outright... Where is that at in the codex?

**nosferatu1001**

In the description for Force Weapons within the codex.

**RustyKnight**

s2ua7 wrote:Ok, because I am blind, I cant find where it states that the Nemesis Force Weapons slay outright... Where is that at in the codex?

Normal Daemonhunters Force Weapons (page 17), not NFW (unless BroCap Stern or Grandmaster)

**s2ua7**

Der... Thanks, I was looking all over for NFW section and couldn't find it... Thanks