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I believe that this the list that I'm going to take to the Ard Boyz. All comments are welcomes and help as well.

HQ
Lelith Hesperax
Wyches Retinue 8 wyches weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Troops
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider
Elites
Raider Squad x 8 w/blaster and Splinter Cannon
Sybarite
Raider
Raider Squad x 8 w/blaster and Splinter Cannon
Sybarite
Raider
Raider Squad x 8 w/blaster and Splinter Cannon
Sybarite
Raider
Heavy
3x Ravager

not sure you got enough wych's there man...

anyway more to the point:

im assuming the ravagers are not disintegrators and are the dark lance variant? also i like the in-your-face attitude this list seems to portray, although i would add a reaver jetbike squad with blasters for some suicidal anti tank. but im probably just nit picking

Ok lets go line by line.

HQ:

Lelith Hesperax
Wyches Retinue 8 wyches weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield

Drop the nightshields on a assault boat its a waste of 15 points. If you want to keep her alive your best bet is to block LoS with the warrior boats.

Troops:

Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield
Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider

Holy waste of points batman! Ok first off cut all the night shields for the same reason above. Now add horrorfexes, for 5 points they auto win you games vs certain match-ups. After that drop your wyche squads down to 6 total models, normal wyches can't kill anything and squads of 6 need the same amount of casualties to take a break test.


Elites:

Raider Squad x 8 w/blaster and Splinter Cannon
Sybarite
Raider
Raider Squad x 8 w/blaster and Splinter Cannon
Sybarite
Raider
Raider Squad x 8 w/blaster and Splinter Cannon
Sybarite
Raider

Why on earth would you take 8 warriors and a naked sybarite? Are you planning on assaulting? All they will do is make it easier to get out of combat with the wyches. cut the warriors down to 5 and drop the syb.

Heavy:

3x Ravager

So you blow a ton of points on useless night shields and don't put them on the only boats that will stay out of range?


Ok now what to buy with the 400 points i saved you? How about 3 squads of jetbikes an extra HQ, a Crusible of M., and 2 dissies on a ravager.

The complete list looks like this:

2500 Pts - Dark Eldar Roster

1 Lelith Hesperax @ 305 pts (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shadow Field)
. . 8 Wych Retinue (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs)
. . . . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons)
. . . . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

1 Wych Dracite @ 68 pts (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades)

5 Wyches @ 202 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs; Plasma Grenades)
. . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Crucible of Malediction ; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

5 Wyches @ 182 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs; Plasma Grenades)
. . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

5 Wyches @ 182 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs; Plasma Grenades)
. . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

5 Wyches @ 182 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs; Plasma Grenades)
. . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

5 Wyches @ 182 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs; Plasma Grenades)
. . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

5 Wyches @ 182 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs; Plasma Grenades)
. . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 115 pts (Blaster; Splinter Rifle x3; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 115 pts (Blaster; Splinter Rifle x3; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 115 pts (Blaster; Splinter Rifle x3; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
. . 1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex)

3 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 95 pts (Splinter Pistol; Blaster x2; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)

3 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 95 pts (Splinter Pistol; Blaster x2; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)

3 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 95 pts (Splinter Pistol; Blaster x2; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)

1 Ravager @ 125 pts (Dark Lance x3; Nightshields)

1 Ravager @ 125 pts (Dark Lance x3; Nightshields)

1 Ravager @ 135 pts (Dark Lance x1; Disentegrator x2; Nightshields)

Total Roster Cost: 2500

Thanks for the help, will try it out this saturday

I mostly agree with Clthomps.

At 2500 points your biggest weakness is all your empty slots. DE tend to win by target oversaturation and some of our really good and cheap wargear. The maxing out of the FA slots for Blaster wielding RJBs is pure gold and should be treasured in a safe place.

I agree with pretty much everything else he said (since I love me my H.Fexes and am lukewarm about N.Shields) but I will add that strategic choice is one of personal preference more then absolute truth.

I personally believe Wych squads will be better served by being 6 strong rather then 5.

I think his Ravager loadout advice is actually also pretty gold considering how mech goes to infinity+1 at 2500 points, you'll want those lances way more then horde tech simply because everything you're running in troops and elite is anti infantry.

The wyche squads are 6 man. The Succ is counted separately on AB. I would use the Vect raider on transports if you need the extra armor busting (also I had 10 spare points)

The more I keep on reading about Dark Eldar the more I'm intrigued by them, I need to keep studying them up. Also make sure you report how your game goes I am very curious. I know this post is not that helpful but the amount of firepower and use of squads gets me interested enough.

The last two games that i have played, I won in Turn 3. one opponent was Orks and the other was Eldar, but we only played a 2000 points. This Saturday will be a real test for the Wyches, playing against Space Wolves, Sister of Battle and last CSM. Wyches to me are best suited for CC and that all, really weak in the open. Plus I'm going to record the battle and post it on this site this Saturday or Sunday. So still tune and thanks for the help guys.

Well good luck!

Is there a reason you don't play a standard Kabal? Vect is just so good not to include.

Here are my thoughts - a little different in some areas.

mrblacksunshine_1978 wrote:Lelith Hesperax
Wyches Retinue 8 wyches weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield

Lelith is okay, I prefer a fully tooled Archite over her because an Archite is much more flexible. At 2500 points there shouldn't be any need to take Lelith just because she is cheap, she is mediocre in my eyes and takes a really long time to finish off a target. My Archites have punishers and t-helms with vitae and once they get going shes dynamite.

If I really wanted a retinue then I would consider a Dracite and let her have it. If you trim the troops down to 6 each you might be able to afford it.

Wyches x 8 weapons 2x blaster plasma grenade
Succubus w/ Agoniser
Raider w/ Night shield

I too like horrorfexs on the raiders but I think the nightshields are vital to survival when it comes to wych cult. If anyone has ever tried them at this scale then they would agree that nightshields are essential to keep the small arms fire off your raiders as well as saving a raider or two on the opening turns when you are blitzing.

The other difference here is I put nightshields on everything including the ravagers - just putting them on some of the raiders makes it easier for the opponent to decide where to shoot.

Raider Squad x 8 w/blaster and Splinter Cannon
Sybarite
Raider

Not sure what your doing with the Sybarite. This unit is definitely for shooting so I would consider either giving the sybarite something worth shooting or just removing them. When I run raider squads in a wych cult I use them as a distraction unit that is going to try to stay on board the raider and harass. I have found that giving the sybarite a xenospasm can also help pin targets while killing them, at least it has a chance to kill fearless targets as well. I've seen other give them terrorfexs but I think that is a little to much for something that will not work all the time (which is why all my raiders have horrorfexs). I would also trim the squad down here if points are needed elsewhere but generally 6 to 8 is what I run. And yes, even they get nightshields in my lists as well.

3x Ravager

I cant tell what the load outs are but when you got that much CC in your list as well as blasters you can probably go 2 ravagers of 3 lances and 1 ravager of 3 dissintegrators (I find my wyches compete for the same targets as the dissys and that they are allergic to blast templates as well).

Overall I think its fine and it looks like you're having success with them so it will be interesting to hear if you made any changes and how they did.

Good luck and happy hunting!