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How would I go about making a good horde army that fits in the Goff fluff? I'd like to keep it around 1500pts if possible.

Boyz. Lots and Lots of Boyz.

. . .and then add some more boyz. . .

Ok, so far I'm thinking:
HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka 225
Troops:

4X 30 Slugga Boyz 920pts.
w/ 3 Big Shootas
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ BP

What else?

Dont forget to add more boys!

I think 120 boyz is plenty. What can if fit in there to support them?

Lootas, or Kommandos (with Snikrot) are usually good ways to support a footslogging horde.

Claypool wrote:Ok, so far I'm thinking:
HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka 225
Troops:

4X 30 Slugga Boyz 920pts.
w/ 3 Big Shootas
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ BP

What else?

I personaly wouldn't bother with taking Big Shootaz in your mobz,your boyz should be running to get into CC,not stoping to let a few boyz take shots at things.
As far as keeping it "fluffy", Kanz,Dreadz & Stormboyz are all very Goff friendly support.

Switching those 60pts from Big Shootas to Gretchin squad(s) would be a good way to cover your boyz or hold objectives in your field.

Take shoota boyz they are much better.

I would take a 50/50 divide between shoota boyz and slugga boyz. Two mobs of choppas with just a power klaw nob, and two mobs of shootas with 3x big shootas and a power klaw nob. This way your army will have a little more versatility and won't be quite so easy to kite around. You're going to get really bored painting that many Ork boyz though, and your movement phases will be eternal.

I like Kans a lot. Let's get rid of those Big Shootaz and throw in some Kans.

Shoota Boyz may be good but they're not Goff.

I've heard bad things about Stormboyz and I've never got Kommandos to work...

HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka 225

Troops:

4X 30 Slugga Boyz 860pts.
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ BP

Heavy Support:

3 Killa Kans 135pts
w/ 3 Grotzookas

3 Killa Kans 150pts
w/ 3 Rokkit Launchas

Total 1370

What else?

Claypool wrote:I like Kans a lot. Let's get rid of those Big Shootaz and throw in some Kans.

Shoota Boyz may be good but they're not Goff.

I've heard bad things about Stormboyz and I've never got Kommandos to work...

HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka 225

Troops:

4X 30 Slugga Boyz 860pts.
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ BP

Heavy Support:

3 Killa Kans 135pts
w/ 3 Grotzookas

3 Killa Kans 150pts
w/ 3 Rokkit Launchas

Total 1370

What else?

Well,considering you want to stay at 1500 points,getting some grotz (for screening or parking on a random objective) is about the only option I can think of off the top of my head.
That's one of the drawbacks of taking Ghazzie in 1500 point games,even though he is a fething monster in CC,he eats up ALOT of points.


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You could however take a Deffdread tooled up for CC & still come in under 1500 as well or perhaps a Mek with KFF,the cover from that will help your footsloggers alot.

So if we keep Ghazzie, throw in

30 Gretchin 130pts
w/ 3 Runtherds
w/ 2 Grot Prods

or

Deff Dread 120pts
w/ 2 DCCW's
w/ Grot Riggers
w/ Armor Plates

or

Big Mek 125pts
w/ KFF
w/ Cybork
w/ 'eavy Armor
w/ PK

Votes on which one?


What if we replace Ghazzie with

Warboss 115pts
w/ PK
w/ Attack Squig
w/ BP
w/ 'eavy Armor
w/ Cybork Body.

What could we do then?

Well,if you add the above Warboss to your current list,it leaves you 250 points to play with.
With that you could add a varitey of options,including another sqaud of Kanz,a "Nobz bodyguard" for your boss,Grotz,CC Dreadz.etc.

FITZZ wrote: Well,if you add the above Warboss to your current list,it leaves you 250 points to play with.
With that you could add a varitey of options,including another sqaud of Kanz,a "Nobz bodyguard" for your boss,Grotz,CC Dreadz.etc.

Ok, so out of what i could add, what should i add?

You wont need 'eavy armour on a KFF Mek,if you want to take a little "extra insurance" take Cybork Body,but the 'eavy armour is a waste of points.

FITZZ wrote: You wont need 'eavy armour on a KFF Mek,if you want to take a little "extra insurance" take Cybork Body,but the 'eavy armour is a waste of points.

K, so drop the armor and throw a BP on or something. Are Kombi-Weapons worth it? What else am I going to do with those last five points?

Rather than 4 large mobz of 30 shoot for 5 mobs of 20. Another "Goffy" thing would be to try to emulate the old Skarboyz - maybe try for that mob of 10 nobz - not power nobz but even just a mob of 10 with choppas and a waagh banner - 215 points of fun generating 50 S5 attacks on the charge at WS5 and S5. Even facing termies and you should wipe out 3 or 4 out of a 5-man squad - not bad without investing too much in super nobz.

Or go a little down the Mek route and lead your charge with 9 killa cans. That and a KFF leading the way and your orks should be somewhat intact when they make it across the table.

Go pure slugga/choppa - you want Goff that means you want to kill in HTH why be tempted to stand and fire? It should be move, run, move, waagh, assault. Shoot only if you can also charge. Mix and you run the risk of not having enough oomph to do it in assaultand not enough to do more than scratch them with shooting.

If you opt for a Kombi Weapon go with the Kombi-Skorcha.

Personaly,with your remaining 250 points I would do one of the following.

Big Mek with KFF , Cybork Body,Kombi-Skorch-100 pts
&
5 Nobz,x2 Pk-150pts

Or
Big Mek with KFF ,Cybork body,Burna & attack squig-130pts.
&
3 Killa kanz with burnaz-115 pts.

HQ:
Warboss 110pts
w/ PK
w/ Attack Squig
w/ 'eavy Armor
w/ Cybork Body.

Big Mek 130 pts
w/ KFF
Cybork Body
Burna
Attack Squig


Troops:
4X 30 Slugga Boyz 860pts.
w/ Nob
w/ PK
w/ BP

Heavy Support:

3 Killa Kans 135pts
w/ 3 Grotzookas

3 Killa Kans 150pts
w/ 3 Rokkit Launchas

3 Killa Kans 115pts
w/ 3 Burnas


Alright, here's the final list.

Now, the all important question...

Will it win games?

you might have problems against armor heavy lists. If your kans with the rokkits are taken out you'll be depending on some shady close combats.

EmpBobo wrote:you might have problems against armor heavy lists. If your kans with the rokkits are taken out you'll be depending on some shady close combats.

He may have some difficulties with heavy armored list,but with the 3 rokkit kanz,5 Pks and a burna in a 1500 point list,he should be able to handle most of the armour that comes his way.