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HQ:
Farseer
Guide
Mind War
Troops:
10 Guardians
Bright Lance
5 Dire Avengers
Exarch
5 Dire Avengers
Exarch
Heavy Support:
5 Dark Reapers
Exarch with fast shot and EML
5 Dark Reapers
Same thing
5 Dark Reapers
same thing

From my perspective,this is a list made against anything,as long as the other player is not too pro
My list camp at one edge of the board,sit and fire
Dire Avengers are there to block charges,and also provide close range fire power
Dark Reapers and guardians are the real ones in my list,capable of taking down 2 Tactical squads/1.5 Trygon/2Doom of malan'tai/others about 400pt with 3+ saves
Farseer always guide the poor citizens(guardians)
So what do you think?

Honestly I think it is a crappy list. What I would do is drop the Reaper Exarchs, take one full squad of DA w/ Exarch, Autarch for HQ instead of the Seer and then try and take two Guardian Brightlance squads. One thing to remember your opponents get cover saves through your own guys so you have to be careful with those firing lanes.

EML Fast Shot is lousy anti-tank for the points.

Farseer is OK HQ but you could also just take a ~80/90 point Autarch in w/ the DA. Pretty solid close combat unit, put it behind Guardians for cover save.

"Honestly I think it is a crappy list."

That hurts me,it really does
But thanks for the other advice

I don't really like it... you seriously lack mobility, and you have no counter charge to speak of... once you get caught, its over. You need to be very careful of outflank, land speeder storms, and other things which can engage you in melee very rapidly. Also watch out for terminators or other 2+ save units, as you only have 1 ap2 gun

You also have huge problems with av14. As the only weapon you have which can do more than glance is 1 brightlance. Things like land raiders filled with nasties are going to roll right up to you unless you get some really lucky rolls from your single lance.

You also have a problem with hordes. Dark reapers fire 2 shots each, for 35 points... and under most circumstances you won't even have them firing at infantry because your exarchs will need to contribute their eml fire to help your guardian squad deal with vehicles

If you want a gunline, drop 2 squads of reapers and pick up a brightlance eml Wraithlord to help with Anti tank and counter charge, and a squad of 3 war walkers with scatter lasers for anti transport / horde.

swap out your dire avengers for 3 man jetbike squads with a cannon. They only cost 16 more points per squad, have a 24 inch range gun, can jump shoot jump to stay alive, and can turbo boost to objectives at the end of the game. Definitely more helpful to your list than 5 man avenger squads.

You should also try to find the points for a squad of harlequins. They make great counter charge units, and with a death jester they can add to your ranged punishment.

Thanks a lot dude

Throwing out list after list is not really helpful.
I'd make some play tests and see which units are useful and which not.

+1, Besides, this list is horrible compared to the other one you posted.

tedurur wrote:+1, Besides, this list is horrible compared to the other one you posted.

Honestly this list is just not really that great. You are probably better off with more DA/ Guardians than a third unit of Reapers. Or you could even take some D-Cannons.

Dark Reapers are Marine killers. Hands down.
But in the new edition, in which cover saves are almost everywhere, their usefulness is questionable.

Sorry mate, I'm going to agree and say this is a pretty poor army. If you want to play foot eldar, I suggest: guardians w/scatter lasers or EML, dire avengers in big units with exarchs, harlequins with a shadowseer, maybe one unit of dark reapers (take an exarch with a reaper launcher and crack shot, this makes the squad great against marines, which is what they're for, not 2 overpriced EML shots) and some war walkers. Warp spiders and striking scorpions are worth a look too. You do need some way of dealing with AV14, so make sure you have some bright lances around (fire dragons will get shot immediately in a foot army)

With the Eldar I always saw Dire Avengers in Grav tanks as pretty damn solid, especially when you toss scatter lasers everywhere. It's just a lot of dice you're tossing against people, good Str on that scatter laser as well.

I think the farseer is a great HQ, and guide on a DA group exarch+bladestorm is pretty scary,as long as they're at full strength. adding more than one power to the seer starts getting pricey with those spirit stones as well.

The Dark Reapers are really cool units, it's just they're over specialized it seems and not overall worth the cost of they're output compared to other eldar units. That's why a list compromised mostly of them just looks so ugly, it's not everyone just bashing you.


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Ohh yeah, guardian with bright lances are super noice also, and just remember how awesome lance weapons are against anything over 12 armor, Guardians need a lot of backup though as they get ripped apart so fast. It's either you protect them, or you use them as a cover save with Eldar haha.

guardian with bright lances are super noice also

They are hit or miss, with a 50% chance unless they are guided.
However, there are better units to guide like War Walkers.

50% chance to hit and then a 33% chance to penetrate and then another 33% to destroy. Not exactly great...

tedurur wrote:50% chance to hit and then a 33% chance to penetrate and then another 33% to destroy. Not exactly great...

I leave such units at home.
Bright lances are better taken on Serpents; then they are twin-linked.

However, if you need to pop that damned tank (Land Raider), then I prefer Fire Dragons any day.

Either way bright lances are useful, put scatter lasers on the guardian squads if the 1 shot wonder bright lance is too statistically challenged for you.

I generally give scatter lasers to the Serpents transporting troops,
and shuricannons to all other Serpents, for obvious reasons.

and since when did an ap 2 weapon have to roll to penetrate armor on anything? Am I missing something, other than vehicles of course. 50% chance to hit based on BS, then chance to wound pased on str v T Bright lance has 8 str, I don't see that having a 33% chance to wound anything once it hits them.


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Maybe it's just too late at night... Vehicle damage charts your kinda effed anyways unless you're using an ap1 weapon

tedurur wrote:50% chance to hit and then a 33% chance to penetrate and then another 33% to destroy. Not exactly great...

That's the case vs. an AV 12-14 vehicle, unless its a Monolith.

Well doesn't a penetrating hit add towards the vehicle damage chart to give you a 50% chance to destroy if you get a penetrating hit? which is like 20% chance after the chance to hit them.

Well, a penetrating hit has a 33% chance to destroy the target, unless its a melta weapon, then there is a 50% chance.

ohh I thought it added +2 which made a dice roll of four blow things up... I haven't committed enough of this to memory yet! haha thanks for clearing it up though

Well here I have my second thought on a fire base army
3 Walkers,Bright lances
10 Dire Avengers
Farseer
3 EML guardian squads
Wraithlord with Shruiken cannon


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wuestenfux wrote:Throwing out list after list is not really helpful.
I'd make some play tests and see which units are useful and which not.

I am only 15 years old and one army will cost me about 5 month of housework,I have to be VERY careful with money.
Thats why I am asking the experienced players about the my lists
If one is good,or at least most people say positive stuff to,then I will work on it
Life is hard for a person without money...

Tony, I understand, sorry.

Well, if you want a shooty footslogging Eldar army,
then I'd take
Farseer w/ guide, doom, stones, both runes, eventually Eldrad,
Avatar
6-8 Harlies w/ kisses incl. Shadowseer
10 Dire Avengers
2x 10 Guardian Defenders w/ scatter laser
2 Wraith Lords w/ bright lance, eml
3 War Walkers w/ scatter lasers.

Well,its alright,and thanks for the list

Tony the guardsman wrote:Well,its alright,and thanks for the list

You're welcome.
This is a competitive list, with Avatar and Harlies as counter-strike units.

Tony the guardsman wrote:
I am only 15 years old and one army will cost me about 5 month of housework,I have to be VERY careful with money.
Thats why I am asking the experienced players about the my lists
If one is good,or at least most people say positive stuff to,then I will work on it
Life is hard for a person without money...

Tony, good. Much better.