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Can Eldrad use his divination ability to place units in reserve that were initially deployed on the board?

Noisy_Marine wrote:Can Eldrad use his divination ability to place units in reserve that were initially deployed on the board?

No.

and vice versa.

The wording is a little vague, but note the line 'no unit may be moved outside of its deployment zone'.

If a unit has been deployed in reserve, it's deployment zone is in reserve. If a unit has been deployed on the board, it's deployment zone is the area of the board the mission allows you to deploy units upon. You cannot use this power to change the deployment zone of a unit.

I don't have the codex with me (or the rulebook), but I don't recall putting a unit into reserve having wording which "changes its deployment zone to reserve". Furthermore, I'm pretty sure eldrad's divination reads something like "redeploy d3+1 units". I'll check when I get home, but if my recollection is correct.... I don't see why you can't. Especially since it happens after infiltrating and reserve/DS is announced.

I'm willing to be that its going to be inconclusive in the end - won't say you can, won't say you can't, because whoever wrote eldrad's divination probably didn't consider it.

"After both sides have deployed at the start of a game, the Eldar player may reposition D3+1 units in his army. No unit may be moved outside of its deployment zone."

Personally, I would say that taking a deployed unit and putting it into reserve is moving it outside of it's deployment zone. However, taking a unit in reserve and putting it on the table is moving it into it's deployment zone.

Only one thing is designated as "deployment zone" - the space on the table. This talk about reserve being a deployment zone is not in the RaW.


Incidentally, by RaW, this rule doesn't work for female Eldar players!

Scott-S6 wrote:"After both sides have deployed at the start of a game, the Eldar player may reposition D3+1 units in his army. No unit may be moved outside of its deployment zone."

Personally, I would say that taking a deployed unit and putting it into reserve is moving it outside of it's deployment zone. However, taking a unit in reserve and putting it on the table is moving it into it's deployment zone.

Only one thing is designated as "deployment zone" - the space on the table. This talk about reserve being a deployment zone is not in the RaW.

Ah yes, I was incorrect. Hmm, checking the reserve rules it says 'players may choose not to deploy one or more of the units in their army and instead leave them in reserve'. Although whether a unit deploys or not, the player still has a deployment zone. A unit in reserve still has a position (even if that position is in reserve/off the board) so it can be repositioned.

You're correct, a unit can be removed from reserves and placed into the player's deployment zone, but not vice versa.

Scott-S6 wrote:Incidentally, by RaW, this rule doesn't work for female Eldar players!

By RaI this power lets you automatically win the game, as Eldrad divination means if you're deploying at all it's because he knows you've already won! That's obviously what the author intended, after all. ;P