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2010/03/31 02:18:12
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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I have been collecting guard for a bit, and after doing some surfing on FW, I noticed their renegade guard section. I know that once upon a time there was a codex for them (Though I'm sure its tourney banned by now) The real question I have is, since they used to be an army, does anyone BESIDES FW produce models for them?
After all, I love my guard, but who wouldn't want expendability with a dash of "magic"?
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"Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home." -Glen Bateman, The Stand (C&U), 3rd paragraph of Chapter 42, by Stephen King
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2010/03/31 02:20:20
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Killer Klaivex
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Nobody would be able to without getting a C&D letter from GW.
It's not hard to make your own anyway. All it takes is some bog-standard Guardsmen and greenstuff.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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2010/03/31 02:22:06
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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One, what is a C&D letter?
And two, so their codex is dead and gone I assume?
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"Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home." -Glen Bateman, The Stand (C&U), 3rd paragraph of Chapter 42, by Stephen King
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2010/03/31 02:22:08
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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IIRC, you're thinking of the Lost and the Damned list from one of the smaller books like the Eye of Terror or something to that effect.
I don't think it's a 'legal' list anymore, but I may be wrong.
I know my buddy has resurrected his old Chaos Cult army with the new Guard book. He just goes heavy on Psykers and Conscripts and laments the fact that they have an armour save rather than run around naked.
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2010/03/31 02:26:44
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Killer Klaivex
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A C&D letter tells you 'stop what you're doing right now or we'll fething rape your wallet and shut you down'.
And no, the Lost and the Damned is no longer a legal army list. You can use the IG codex to play it though.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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2010/03/31 17:30:55
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Lord of the Fleet
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The Siege of Vraks books have the renegade army lists (part 2 is the book you want).
However, this list is not legal in most tournies and is a little weak. It is quite fluffy though. (both are true of most FW rules).
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2010/03/31 19:24:39
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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Where could I pick those up at?
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"Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home." -Glen Bateman, The Stand (C&U), 3rd paragraph of Chapter 42, by Stephen King
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2010/04/01 08:44:11
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Lord of the Fleet
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Forge World.
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2010/04/01 13:30:06
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Bryan Ansell
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Use the current IG codex for counts as purposes.
Just gouge current Cadians and Catachans up a bit, add some GS, spikey bits and have a look at the GW Chaos Maruder sprues as they offer plenty of good bits to 'chaosify' guards.
If you take a look through the modelling forums here on Dakka you should find some inspiration.
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2010/04/01 13:36:52
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Slippery Scout Biker
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Is forge world really expensive?
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2010/04/01 14:14:23
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Dominating Dominatrix
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I'm doing a Traitor Guard army of Nurgle and stick with the Guard Codex.
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2010/04/01 14:17:13
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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You could simply use the guard codex but use converted models. It would then be legal completely.
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2010/04/01 15:38:22
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Lord of the Fleet
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salamander man wrote:Is forge world really expensive?
The vehicle upgrade kits are a little pricey. Their infantry models are very pricey (£4 / $US7 per model) with heavy weapon teams being extremely expensive. That said, they are very nice.
The IG codex could do a renegade force with a little bit of counts as but the Vraks2 list has a bit more character (but isn't legal for most tournies).
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2010/04/04 08:24:56
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Shipping on forgeworld is what gets you.
IG codex used to have a section for a renegade army. Or maybe it was a white dwarf. Two editions ago that is. It pretty much said to use a standard guard army without commissars.
I think it would be interesting though to say that chaos turned the commissars and then the guardsmen fought on as they were told to and one day woke up and reasiled they had become devoted to chaos gods. Simply paint them appropriately with a few conversions to represent being possessed. Maybe some chaos bits or something on vehicles.
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2010/04/04 08:52:50
Subject: Re:Renegade Guardsmen?
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Oberfeldwebel
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MMMM that's remind me that i want to make few squads of Blood Pact, but Chaos terminator heads (that ones without helmet, just a breathing mask) are also not available in GW... any hint of how can i make them??
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2000 foot sloging IG  
Cataphracts.... need to recalculate points....
Iron warriors  waiting for more bucks with a better job
4th Panzerdivision Ost waiting for orders Reichmarschall!! 
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2010/04/04 10:44:37
Subject: Renegade Guardsmen?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/04 10:45:14
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2010/04/04 11:49:26
Subject: Re:Renegade Guardsmen?
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Oberfeldwebel
Palma de Mallorca, Spain
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mmmm the problem is the fact that i only need the heads... and better if they are the old ones.... otherwise they had a SERIOUS neck ache, but thanks
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/04 11:49:52
2000 foot sloging IG
Cataphracts.... need to recalculate points....
Iron warriors waiting for more bucks with a better job
4th Panzerdivision Ost waiting for orders Reichmarschall!!
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:salamanders rule: