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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 22:51:04
Subject: good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So my buddy who plays orks has this unit who fires a 2d6 str large blast shot that on double 6's completely wipes that unit from the game. Apologies for not knowing the weapon name. Now my question is since it ignores armor saves as well as invuln saves ( if I remember correctly) could I take a cover save? And if so, do I just roll one dooming d6?
One last question, could I go to ground if I'm not in cover to at least give me the 6+?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 22:54:10
Subject: good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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This is the SAG, and you cannot take any saves, it removes all models under the blast from play.
On the other question, I don't know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 22:55:30
Subject: Re:good bye entire unit with one shot...
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It's the Shokk Attack Gun and they are simply removed from play and vehicles are auto-penetrated. Any non-vehicle is simply removed from play, no saves or anything. Vehicles on the other hand due to the wording would still get a cover save if something granted them one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 23:04:23
Subject: good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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No saves, including cover saves. They're just removed from play, so there are no "wounds" to save from.
Remember that the double 6's is not very common, and that double 1's cause the same thing to happen to the Mek and his gun. Also, remember that the shot still scatters, and it's only things hit by the blast marker that go poof or get auto-penetrated, not automatically the whole squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 23:25:29
Subject: good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Haha maybe double 6's are uncommon for me, him on the other hand..
Well thanks for the help guys, I was just trying to salvage a bit of my 50 man blob squad when the blast glances one of my back guardsman's back pack strap!
Edit: oh wait, I was under the impression that the text read " the entire unit is removed" meaning not just the model but the unit itself.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/01 23:29:01
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 23:38:14
Subject: Re:good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nope it is just models hit so you would just lose that one guy. The SAG auto killing 50 guys would be stupidly rare if not outright impossible.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/02 21:43:17
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/01 23:57:43
Subject: Re:good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So many guardsmen buried alive....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 14:16:34
Subject: good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Kelne
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On the second question: Yes you can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 14:27:19
Subject: good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alkasyn wrote:On the second question: Yes you can.
Yes you can go to ground and gain additional cover... which would do nothing because you get no saves against a SAG double 6 result unless your a vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 16:14:10
Subject: good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Confessor Of Sins
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TheKaptin wrote:Now my question is since it ignores armor saves as well as invuln saves ( if I remember correctly) could I take a cover save?
The double six result doesn't cause wounds so a cover save (or armor/ inv) does nothing for non-vehicles even if you have one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/02 17:46:20
Subject: Re:good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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One of my fav appoc games was a mec with a SAG in a bastion with a squad of lootas, rolled the one where everything in 6 inches is removed. Ended up taking the bastion, the lootas, a tyrant and a carnafex all in one bad roll.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/04 13:07:35
Subject: good bye entire unit with one shot...
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Kelne
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BlueDagger wrote:Alkasyn wrote:On the second question: Yes you can.
Yes you can go to ground and gain additional cover... which would do nothing because you get no saves against a SAG double 6 result unless your a vehicle.
In this situation it is pointless indeed, but I assumed the question was of general nature.
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