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So when you disembark out of the BW. Are you allowed to place your models 2" from the defrolla? Or 2" from the hull?

I.E. can you place your models 2" directly in front of the deffrolla when they are disembarking, or do they have to "hang back" a bit closer to the actual hull of the BW.

GG

2" from the hull, RAW. Just call 'wobbly model' and place dice on the rolla to show where your nobz/boyz are actually standing, should you need them to be there. Or just pivot before disembarking.

tetrisphreak wrote:Just call 'wobbly model' and place dice on the rolla to show where your nobz/boyz are actually standing, should you need them to be there.

Models are impassable terrain. You cannot place models in impassable terrain (sans special rules).
What is so hard to understand about this...

You measure disembarking distance from the hull. The rolla is not hull. You cannot place models on the rolla.
RAW, anyway. In before dozens of people who play the rolla as hull.

There is an exception for vehicles which allows them to become dangerous terrain, after they have been wrecked of course.

In a friendly game discuss with your opponent pre-game.

In a tournament, you likely will not be able to put your orks on top of your rolling pin o' killy death. Adjust for that accordingly and waaaaaugh yourself to victory anyhow!

2'' from the hull, and not to be placed on the deffrolla. Even for orks it's a bit insane to jump from the vehicle on an oversized meat grinder.

like said above I discuss the battlewagon before hand explain that all measuring is from the hull and the deffrolla doesn't could as the hull, I'll take mine off if am disembarking that way

We play deffrolla = hull, which does 2 things. It allows burna templates to be fired from the front and it allows the troops to be places at the front of the vehicle if disembarking.

Deffolla should count as cosmetic as with rams etc but that isn't practical.

Whilst this does allow an advantage of sorts, we also count the rolla as increasing the BW's footprint, so range of enemy fire and higher % of scatter weapons hitting it counterbalance that nicely.

there is a poll asking the exact same question that's been on the front page for a few days already. also, several other threads asking the exact same thing have popped up over the past few weeks since the revised ork faq came out.

warboss wrote:there is a poll asking the exact same question that's been on the front page for a few days already. also, several other threads asking the exact same thing have popped up over the past few weeks since the revised ork faq came out.

Hey... thanks for the heads up.

Also, I did some reading under the open topped rule and it says that they can disembark from anywhere on the "vehicle" not hull.

GG

generalgrog wrote:

warboss wrote:there is a poll asking the exact same question that's been on the front page for a few days already. also, several other threads asking the exact same thing have popped up over the past few weeks since the revised ork faq came out.

Hey... thanks for the heads up.

Also, I did some reading under the open topped rule and it says that they can disembark from anywhere on the "vehicle" not hull.

GG

No it doesn't. It says they can disembark within 2" of any point on the vehicle.
Which is a distance measurement involving the vehicle.
Which means it's measured from the hull.

Vehicle = To the Hull (no deffrolla)
Model = To any part on the model (deffrolla)

That's what I get for trying to be brief. I forgot that you can't use brevity in the YMTC forum, with all of the rules lawyers lying in wait to pounce on the slightest technical error.

But yeah, anywhere within 2" of any point of the vehicle. That doesn't invalidate my point however.

Anyway, nkelsh makes a good point with this:

Vehicle = To the Hull (no deffrolla)
Model = To any part on the model (deffrolla)

Not saying that I think that settles the matter, but certainly is food for thought.

Also since there is another thread allready going on about this very issue, I'm going to let this one die and monitor the other thread.

Thanks,

GG