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Brother Corbulo. His ability of Far-Seeing Eye. Would this allow you to re-roll the die you rolled to who deploys first?

I would say yes, since it specifies, "even to seize the initiative." Since that has pretty much the same requirements and setup as the deployment roll.

Unless:
There is a consensus stating that you have to have a model on the board for its special ability to work, (except in the case of abilities that tell you how to get on the board), so the "seize the initiative roll" may be assuming that Corbulo is on the board at that point. If this is the interpretation, then I would say no.

That would not make sense with corbulo on the seize inititive roll though since he could be held in reserve and the listing doesnt clarify, except that he must not have been killed yet.


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I would also think that the re-roll a dice might apply to random game lengths? Just food for thought.

*Technically,* after you roll to end the game (and the game ends), the game is over, and the rules wouldn't actually have any effect, since you aren't playing anymore. Although you could re-roll if you're trying to end the game.

But that does seem silly, so I don't think I'd play it that way.

I'd say the intent of the rule appears to be literally any roll, so if I was playing against someone including this unit, I would allow them to re-roll absolutely anything.

This is an interesting one.

Corbulo: "Corbulo allows you a single re-roll once per game. This can be any roll that you have made, such as [list of examples],even to sieze the initiative. If Corbulo is slain then before this re-roll is used then it is lost."

The last sentence is especially interesting - not "while he is alive" or "while he is on the table." Is this supposed to be a new variation or is it just sloppy?

In his list of example he's already being given explicit permission to re-roll a die that's rolled before the game starts. As long as we consider that list to be examples (i.e. not exhaustive) then he certainly can re-roll the deployment die.

Whilst I'm sure that we will get some people claiming that the list is exhaustive (see the debates on targetting non-humanoid models...) the omission of rolls to wound strongly suggests that it is not.


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Krall wrote:*Technically,* after you roll to end the game (and the game ends), the game is over, and the rules wouldn't actually have any effect, since you aren't playing anymore. Although you could re-roll if you're trying to end the game.

But the roll would not take effect until after a potential re-roll had been carried out. Also, Corbulo already has explicit permission for re-rolls outside the game anyway.

As corbulos re-roll is there for the whole Game,
if corbulo is alive, it should be possible to reroll if the game ends.

Actually, outside of battle missions, "A Player" rolls to see if the game ends, so unless your opponent is really nice and lets the BA Player roll it, Corbulos re-roll cant be used on the Game Ending Roll.

Corbulo can only re-roll a roll "you" have made. So only if you roll the game end die you can re-roll it.

As a non blood angels player I can assure you that I will insist on that it should be me rolling the game end die in any game versus blood angels that have a living Corbulo that has not yet made his re-roll.

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Gwar! wrote:Actually, outside of battle missions, "A Player" rolls to see if the game ends, so unless your opponent is really nice and lets the BA Player roll it, Corbulos re-roll cant be used on the Game Ending Roll.

Hmm, that's an good point.

In that case I'll be needing a houserule that corbulo can't re-roll that one or something to determine who gets to roll it.