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HQ

CCS - 205
4x Meltagun
Officer of the Fleet
Chimera (HF)

Troops

PCS - 105
4xFlamer
Chimera (HF)

Infantry Squad120
Autocannon
Grenade Launcher
Chimera (HB)

Infantry Squad120
Autocannon
Grenade Launcher
Chimera (HB)

PCS - 105
4xFlamer
Chimera (HF)

Infantry Squad120
Autocannon
Grenade Launcher
Chimera (HB)

Infantry Squad120
Autocannon
Grenade Launcher
Chimera (HB)

Veterans 130
3x Meltagun
Demolitions

Veterans 130
3x Meltagun
Demolitions

Fast Attack

Vendetta 130

Vendetta 130

Banewolf 130

Heavy Support

2xHydra 150

Medusa 135

LR Executioner 230
Plasma Sponsons

Total: 2000

I like how this is headed. Remember that if you are facing a massive horde list to scout the vendettas with those Platoon Command Squads forward for eight templates on the first turn.

I don't think the single banewolf has a place in there. Just leave your fast attack at two planes, which gives us some room to fiddle with your heavy support.

One way to go is the 'leafblower' heavy support loadout, which looks like this:

2 Medusas w/ Enclosed Crew Compartments
2 Hydras
Manticore

To drop some mean templates. The other way would be to look into just loading up on units of Hydras, and using those leftover points to give your platoons some heavy weapons squads with more autocannons (they win games with math), and swap the infantry squads to only have a lascannon. I think this is the more competitive way to go, but some might find that way of listmaking to be boring.

Fearspect provides a very mean alternative, but this is already a pretty tuned list. Go forth and conquer, IMO.

While the list isn't bad though there is some choices I wouldn't take i.e autocannons and g-launchers.

You do seem to lack some serious anti tank, what you have is wishy washy or thin. You have the 3 meltas which I presume is going in a vendetta and then the single medusa along with the vendettas.

I agree on the banewolf though. It's a easy target so I'd drop it.

disregard this post, real post is below.

Fearspect wrote:I like how this is headed. Remember that if you are facing a massive horde list to scout the vendettas with those Platoon Command Squads forward for eight templates on the first turn.

I don't think the single banewolf has a place in there. Just leave your fast attack at two planes, which gives us some room to fiddle with your heavy support.

One way to go is the 'leafblower' heavy support loadout, which looks like this:

2 Medusas w/ Enclosed Crew Compartments
2 Hydras
Manticore

To drop some mean templates. The other way would be to look into just loading up on units of Hydras, and using those leftover points to give your platoons some heavy weapons squads with more autocannons (they win games with math), and swap the infantry squads to only have a lascannon. I think this is the more competitive way to go, but some might find that way of listmaking to be boring.

This. Grenade Launchers are pretty mediocre, leave the templates to your PCS's and Heavy Support, and load up on them Autocannons.

so, if I'm doing the math right, I can get maybe one HWS with 3x AC? what do I do with the spare points?

I actually use the autocannon and grenade launcher infantry squads in my list and am quite pleased by them. They can do work on lightly armed infantry, especially when you FRFSRF the lasguns, and you can use the Bring it Down order and switch your grenade from frag to krak, coupled with the autocannon the twin-linked can bring some hurt to MEQ. As well as giving you some good ranged fire to take down transports.

If I were you I would drop the demolitions doctrine from both veteran squads. At bs4 with 3 melta guns nothing really should statistically survive. Also the officer of the fleet really just sucks. He's so inaccurate you might as well just give him a bullet to the head. Your army looks pretty solid for the most part but I think that your seriously lacking on dedicated ap2 weaponry. Sure you do have your melta guns but those are going to be tied up dealing with enemy armor.

I'm sure without the demolitions and by removing 2 chimera's from a platoon you can fit in a plasma armed veterans squad riding in a chimera.

happy hunting

chumcannon wrote:

If I were you I would drop the demolitions doctrine from both veteran squads. At bs4 with 3 melta guns nothing really should statistically survive. Also the officer of the fleet really just sucks. He's so inaccurate you might as well just give him a bullet to the head.

I think you're getting the adjudants confused here, MoO is the inaccurate template dropper, Master of the fleet holds back your opponents reserves (hopefully).

Solid.

chumcannon, you can't issue orders to squads in chimeras. I feel like putting the autocannons in HWS is the best option, at that point.
Lascannons in squads, Autocannons in HWS, Lascannons on the Vendetta, and blasts from the Medusas is enough ap2 for even the hardest infantry, IMHO.
And I feel that the meltabombs would be useful for popping that stubborn Landraider (or Monolith!), and the demolition charge would massacre the marines that pop out of the raider that the meltas did kill. It certainly makes them useful for more than the meltaguns, and they're worth it, at 30 pts.

And, without further ado, newest list:

Banewolf and Executioner out, extra Medusa and two AC HWS in, switch the GL-AC on the infantry squads for lascannons. Enough anti-tank? Enough anti-horde? It's certainly enough anti-MEq, IMHO.

HQ

CCS - 175
4x Meltagun
Officer of the Fleet
Chimera (HF)

Troops

PCS - 105
4xFlamer
Chimera (HF)

Infantry Squad 125
Lascannon
Chimera (HB)

Infantry Squad 125
Lascannon
Chimera (HB)

PCS - 105
4xFlamer
Chimera (HF)

Infantry Squad 125
Lascannon
Chimera (HB)

Infantry Squad 125
Lascannon
Chimera (HB)

Heavy Weapon Squad 75
3xAutocannon

Heavy Weapon Squad 75
3xAutocannon

Veterans 130
3x Meltagun
Demolitions
(in a Vendetta)

Veterans 130
3x Meltagun
Demolitions
(in a Vendetta)

Fast Attack

Vendetta 130

Vendetta 130

Heavy Support

2xHydra 150

Medusa 150
crew compartment
(HF)

Medusa 150
crew compartment
(HF)
Total: 2005 oops...

Sexy time. Only I am pretty sure the Heavy Weapons Squads with 3x AC are only 75 points. Be sure to give the Medusas Heavy Flamers on the front. The Hydras are kind of a toss-up.

Check the cost of the Medusas, I don't have my codex either.

Medusa with crew compartment is 150 points a pop, and yes its 75 points for AC HWS.

Uh...that puts me 5 pts over. Oops. Any idea what I should cut?

should I switch one IS back to AC/GL? that would buy me back those 5...

Drop one melta from the CCS. Swap it for a flamer maybe?

really? why is that a better idea than switching one of the IS?

Just my own philosophy, test both if you'd like. You are twin-linking them anyway, so three already act like more and I generally prefer to spread my threats throughout my army. So, with my suggestion, both squads have access to solid anti-infantry and anti-tank.

...can't issue orders into a vehicle, though, right? or am I missing something?