Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I have a game where I will be fighting against Space Wolves, all I know is that my opponent will be using Logan Grimnar.

HQ:
Terminator Epistolary
SS
Null Zone & Vortex of Doom
TOTAL= 190

Ortan Cassius
TOTAL= 125

Elite:
10x Sternguard
10x Combi-plasma
LC on Sgt
Melta Bombs
Razorback
TOTAL=355

5x Assault Terminators
3xLC
2xTH/SS
GHLR w/ MM
TOTAL= 460

Troops:
Tac Squad
PP
PW
Melta
Plasma Gun
LC
Razorback
TOTAL=265

Tac Squad
PW
Melta
Plasma Gun
PC
Razorback
TOTAL=245

Tac Squad
PP
PW
Melta
Meltagun
PC
Razorback
TOTAL=255

Scouts
x5
Snipers
ML
Camo Cloaks
TOTAL=100

Please feel free to make any suggestions and thank you for your time.

you don't have any anti tank in your army hardly. I like the God hammer in that role but if your going to assalt your terminators you want a crusader or a redeemer pattern.

I would try to stick in a pair of preds with las cannon Sponsens if you can.

I know this is rude but as soon as I see Fun! and Competitive! in the same sentence I move to the next thread

General_Chaos wrote: I know this is rude but as soon as I see Fun! and Competitive! in the same sentence I move to the next thread

Take a while to think about what you just wrote...

As for the list. You are taking way too much stuff on your tac sergents. Lack long range transport poping capability and on top of the you lack close range heavy tank poping capability. You have two expensive units in your army that is easily stoped since they rely so heavily on thier transports in order to be effective and since they are the only units with some offencive output they will wrecked asap.

Well...it's not the worst list I've ever seen on here, but it's fairly close. It's not very competitive at the moment.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
HQ:
Terminator Epistolary
SS
Null Zone & Vortex of Doom
TOTAL= 190

Ortan Cassius
TOTAL= 125

First of all, where are you going to be deploying these models? You can't fit both of these inside the Land Raider with the Terminators, so either the Librarian will be walking each game or Cassius is going with a Combat Squad, neither of which are good options. Better to drop Cassius all together.
The Epistolary upgrade isn't necessary either.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
Elite:
10x Sternguard
10x Combi-plasma
LC on Sgt
Melta Bombs
Razorback
TOTAL=355

Holy Moley. You cannot fit ten models inside a Razorback, so either cut this down to a 6-man squad or just take a Rhino instead. Why so many combi-plasma? You'd be better off taking some combi-meltas in there so you can actually damage AV13+.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
5x Assault Terminators
3xLC
2xTH/SS
GHLR w/ MM
TOTAL= 460

Take 4 x TH/SS and 1 x LC, otherwise pretty good.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
Troops:
Tac Squad
PP
PW
Melta
Plasma Gun
LC
Razorback
TOTAL=265

Tac Squad
PW
Melta
Plasma Gun
PC
Razorback
TOTAL=245

Tac Squad
PP
PW
Melta
Meltagun
PC
Razorback
TOTAL=255

Tactical Squads can only take one special and one heavy weapon each, so these squads with their two special weapons aren't legal at the moment. By taking Razorbacks you're pretty much forced to Combat Squad every game, which isn't always the best thing to do. Either actually make those Razorbacks worthwhile and purchase TL-Lascannon/Lascannon-Plasma turrets, or stick with Rhinos.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
Scouts
x5
Snipers
ML
Camo Cloaks
TOTAL=100

Considering that you'll be combat squadding your tactical squads every game, why are you taking another squad to sit back and hold objectives? This squad won't do anything.

This list really needs some fast moving Melta platforms to help you against heavy armour. With the points saved taking out Cassius and some of those Sternguard I would consider taking some MM/HF Land Speeders or MM Attack Bikes. I hope this helps!

vagorin wrote:you don't have any anti tank in your army hardly. I like the God hammer in that role but if your going to assalt your terminators you want a crusader or a redeemer pattern.

I would try to stick in a pair of preds with las cannon Sponsens if you can.

I do have Devs and a pred just trying to see if this works, and apparently it does not.

unbeliever87 wrote:Well...it's not the worst list I've ever seen on here, but it's fairly close. It's not very competitive at the moment.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
HQ:
Terminator Epistolary
SS
Null Zone & Vortex of Doom
TOTAL= 190

Ortan Cassius
TOTAL= 125

First of all, where are you going to be deploying these models? You can't fit both of these inside the Land Raider with the Terminators, so either the Librarian will be walking each game or Cassius is going with a Combat Squad, neither of which are good options. Better to drop Cassius all together.
The Epistolary upgrade isn't necessary either.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
Elite:
10x Sternguard
10x Combi-plasma
LC on Sgt
Melta Bombs
Razorback
TOTAL=355

Holy Moley. You cannot fit ten models inside a Razorback, so either cut this down to a 6-man squad or just take a Rhino instead. Why so many combi-plasma? You'd be better off taking some combi-meltas in there so you can actually damage AV13+.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
5x Assault Terminators
3xLC
2xTH/SS
GHLR w/ MM
TOTAL= 460

Take 4 x TH/SS and 1 x LC, otherwise pretty good.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
Troops:
Tac Squad
PP
PW
Melta
Plasma Gun
LC
Razorback
TOTAL=265

Tac Squad
PW
Melta
Plasma Gun
PC
Razorback
TOTAL=245

Tac Squad
PP
PW
Melta
Meltagun
PC
Razorback
TOTAL=255

Tactical Squads can only take one special and one heavy weapon each, so these squads with their two special weapons aren't legal at the moment. By taking Razorbacks you're pretty much forced to Combat Squad every game, which isn't always the best thing to do. Either actually make those Razorbacks worthwhile and purchase TL-Lascannon/Lascannon-Plasma turrets, or stick with Rhinos.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:
Scouts
x5
Snipers
ML
Camo Cloaks
TOTAL=100

Considering that you'll be combat squadding your tactical squads every game, why are you taking another squad to sit back and hold objectives? This squad won't do anything.

This list really needs some fast moving Melta platforms to help you against heavy armour. With the points saved taking out Cassius and some of those Sternguard I would consider taking some MM/HF Land Speeders or MM Attack Bikes. I hope this helps!

Sorry for the mix-up but when I put Melta up there I meant Melta bombs.... hehehe... fit of laziness there.... I've learned my lesson..

Since Cassius is out of the picture, I think the Epistolary upgrade is useful. The libby will cast Null Zone and then Vortex and finally the Termies will clean it up; this is not entirely impossible since I have a LR.

On the Sternguard, I put the plas in there b/c if you read at the top I'm going to be facing off against SW so I figured the plas will be the most useful of the combi-weapons.

And as far as the Land Speeders and Attack Bikes go, I don't have those models, nor do I have anything that can proxy as them either.

The TL-Las on the razorbacks... interesting...



How's this?

HQ: Terminator Epistolary
SS
Null Zone and Vortex
TOTAL= 190

Elites:
5 Assault Terminators
2x LC
3x TH/SS
LR w/ MM
TOTAL=460

5x Sternguard
5x Combi
Sgt. has LC
TL- LC Razorback
TOTAL=240

Dreadnought
MM
SB
TOTAl=105

Troops:
10x Tac
Sgt. w/ PW, Melta bombs
Plasma Gun
Lascannon
TL-AC Razorback
TOTAL=285

10xTac
Sgt. w/ PP, Melta bombs, PW
Meltagun
PC
TL-LC Razorback
TOTAL=290

10x Tac
Sgt. w/PW, Melta bombs
Plasma Gun\
PC
LC-PG Razorback
TOTAL=280

HS:
5x Dev Squad
4xML
TOTAL=150

TOTAL=2000

This better? Thank you for your suggestions.