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Hey all,here I figured out something against orks,will this work?

HQ:
Space Marine Chapter Master
Relic Blade
Storm Bolter
Hell fire rounds
And another 30 pt of other upgrades
Space Mrine Chapter Master
Same thing with the first one
Elites:
Black Reach Dread
Black Reach Dread
10 Terminators
Troops:Marine tacs are all 10 man
Tactical Squad
Lascannon
Flamer
Tactical Squad
Lascannon
Flamer
Tactical Squad
Lascannon
Flamer
Tactical Squad
Lascannon
Flamer
5 Man scout Squad
Heavy Bolter
Bolters for all others
Heavy Support:
10 Devastators
4 Heavy Bolters



I have a pretty good feeling about this list,especially against orkies,cuz I have a bunch of shots from 5 heavy bolters,countless bolters and a squad of termies
Also,keeping them in combat squads(when objective missions)means I get a front line of marines and a 2nd line of safe fire base
So what do you think?
P.S. I love cheese

Masters are pretty meh.
Hellfire rounds don’t work with storm bolters.
Double Masters is just a waste of points.

Dreads are nice themselves but there is no Armor Saturation elsewhere.
10 Termies: which ones? Tactical or Assault? If Tacticals then why no hvy weapons, if Assault, what are the weapon distributions?

Tacticals: Boring stuff, lack of mobility and weapon diversification.
Scouts are ok I guess.

Devs: I don’t think the hvy bolters are that helpful for the list… concentrate on anti-transports and such. The lascannons on the tacticals waste much potential if they are tasked with anti-transport work.

How many points is this? It’s not a very flexible army and has some questionable loadouts that have high opportunity costs.

I don't see any cheese really, so it has alot of bodies...it's not meching up and has a void of true assault units, while the shooting is average.

it sounds good, but mr grumpy lolcat has a point, you should give your tac squads heavy bolters instead of lascannons ,give em to you devastators. also he's right about your HQ, two chapter masters are a waste,read the assembling a strikeforce section of the sm codex especially about support hqs.

this list is apparently tailored against someones footslogging orks?

yeah thats what he said in the description, that it was an anti ork army

I see where you wanna go wit the chapter masters. I like the orbital bombardment as well.

I would take rocket launchers on your devs so you can get the blast templates and take out battlewagons and trucks easier. Heaby bolter goodnes is nice and all I just think rocket launhcers will kill more crap.

The black reach dreads have real short range on the MM. IIf you have it i would bring a Dakka Pred and a autocannon Las cannon Pred. If you own them.

I think that especially with swarm armies like orcs and tyranids, lots of anti infantry firepower is good, eg: heavy bolters . Also toss in some large blast templates vindicators ftw!

MY EYES !!!!!!!! IT BURNS
(puts on glasses) that's better. Try seperating your unit choices into seperate paragraphs. lol had to say it

If you are taking the chapter masters for the orbital bombardments then may I suggest taking one cheaper HQ rather than two chapter masters and spending the remaining points on Vindicators.

I see no cheese just a challenge. You are not exploiting any of the oks weakness. Instead egging them to sustain a withering hail of fire before beating your brains in.

So with what I have just said I want to clarify that I like what you are doing with this list. Its not beardy. Instead its ballsy.

If you were hoping for Cheese against an ork footslogging hoard I suggest LR spam. Godhammers for trucks, crusaders for midboard firepower, redeemers to deliver and alpha strike.

3 x AOBR Marines vs. 3 x AOBR Orks! Not cheesy in the slightest.

Here's my advice, drop all the Heavy Bolters and Lascannons and replace them with Missile Launchers. They come with AOBR anyway and are better at thinning out hordes than Heavy Bolters.
In regards to your Chapter Masters, Hellfire rounds cannot be used with Storm Bolters, so drop one or the other.
The Dreadnought aren't going to do much against an Ork Horde, upgrade them both to Assault Cannons and Heavy Flamers.
Take two Cyclone Missile Launchers on those Terminators, they will support the rest of your army well and allow you to target the horde at range.

WTF Tony!? Another down trodden list...what's going on?

What other 30 points of upgrades does the captain have?

chapter master serves no purpose. Infact pedro would be perhaps better because of the +1 attack radius and allows sternguard to score; sternguard ammo rips orks to pieces!

Dreads need drop pods or else the meltas won't get into range. Depending what ork army exactly the meltas may not serve much purpose.

Lascannon? Missile launcher! Though tact squads have no transport so how going to get those flamers into range?

Mercer,sorry if I offended you some how,and what does trodden mean?
And thanks for replies,
Also,haven't you realized these models all come from one box?(except the devs and the scouts)
I have no predators,and maybe I will take another termie squad or two,take out the dread and a master,for a captain


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