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I've been thinking about how rhinos firepoints work.

I suggest a slight change to this, though not specifically to change firepoints.

the major idea is this:

rhinos have the option of being open topped.

so, as such I propose two things:

1. an option.
rhinos have the option of being open topped for the turn. in this way, the hatches are opened and units can fire out of them.
however, units cannot exit anywhere they like. they must still leave through doors, and can still assault.
problematically, I can't think of something to even out this rule.

my other suggestion is this:

2. : as long as the tank has more then (maybe?) 'x' members in the vehicle, the vehicle is counted as open topped until the troops exit.

in both cases, this means the enemy get their +1 to results, and it also means that all units may fire.

N: I'm looking to improove upon this rule.

that means, if your looking to simply reject it, then don't post.
(for you who continue, that means be constructive.)

Do a search of the forum; we once had an extensive discussion on open-topped Rhinos that you may find enlightening. I believe it was decided that the opportunity for Space Marines to ride around Ork-style spraying bullets everywhere as they went and assaulting as necessary was un-fluffy and overpowered.

Unfluffy not sure (more than likely) overpowered completely true. There is a very good reason they got rid of the Blood Angels Rhino rush. Now that they are fast lets see here.

10-man Assault squad deploys right on the line. Moves 18" deploys 2" and assaults 6" Total first turn charge range of 26"

jbunny wrote:Unfluffy not sure (more than likely) overpowered completely true. There is a very good reason they got rid of the Blood Angels Rhino rush. Now that they are fast lets see here.

10-man Assault squad deploys right on the line. Moves 18" deploys 2" and assaults 6" Total first turn charge range of 26"

*Can't disembark from a vehicle moving flat out*

Ok change it to being on a road. Get's the extra 6" from the road and you have the same effect.

Can't assault out of a rhino.

Have to make it a Land raider

Kommissar Kel wrote:Can't assault out of a rhino.

Have to make it a Land raider

That is because it is not OPEN TOPPED. The proposed rule change would make it open topped, and thus allow a unit to assault after moving per the open topped rules.

Open topped doesn't mearly suggest that some nit-wit left the hatch open. It is for vehicles whos interior is exposed to the elements.

I would not be opposed to a variation of the Rhino that has no roof, but to have it keep changing in the course of the game is stupid because it is just begging for an argument.

A new varient of the Rhino might also allow you to do the multipule entry points, and assault out of it. I think this would be balanced by the weakness of ALWAYS being open topped.