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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/15 17:57:41
Subject: Blood angels at smaller points
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Hey guys, I've always like blood angels and have wanted to get an army of them for a while now. The new codex release has spurred me to go ahead and start a 750-1Kish army.
I've looked for posts in the army list section but havent found many 750/1k lists.
Anyone got any suggestions about what works at smaller points levels for the BA?
Sorry if is this is supposed to be in the army list section, but since I had no list to post, I figured it was better off here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 17:27:31
Subject: Re:Blood angels at smaller points
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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It's a good question, and a difficult one to answer. BA at lower point values suffer more than most other marines because our vehicles are so d@mn expensive. However, by trading in assault squad jump packs you can make most transports rather accessible  At 500 I've been forced to go with something like this.
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Librarian, Blood Lance, Unleash Rage (100)
TROOPS:
Assault Squad, Razorback (120)
Assault Squad, Meltagun, Power Weapon, Razorback (145)
HEAVY:
AC/ LC Predator (135)
TOTAL: 500
Or, if you want people to hate you forever, you could try this  . . .
HQ:
Librarian, Blood Lance, Unleash Rage (100)
TROOPS;
Assault Squad, Land Raider Redeemer w/Multi-Melta (315)
Scouts (75)
TOTAL: 490 (Spend the other ten any way you like)
The second list presents several tactical hilarities. Technically speaking, since Assault Squads have "Decent of the Angels" built in and BA LR's can Deep Strike and, in this case, the LR is a dedicated transport for the Assault Squad I would say that the dedicated Land Raider Redeemer and it's cargo can now deep strike using the "Decent of the Angels" special rule. Basically, you can hold it in reserve to deep strike and then, in turn two, you have an excellent chance of dropping it right in front of them, blowing a few things up, and then lighting the rest on fire in the subsequent turns
At 750, if you drop the scouts, you can afford two Assualt Squads with Deep Striking LR's
I hope this helps. Just make the book work for you and design good arguments for everything else
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 17:48:11
Subject: Re:Blood angels at smaller points
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Sister Vastly Superior
Germany - Bodensee/Ravensburg area
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Just play Mephi at 500 pts. and make your enemy cry  ...
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Dark it was, and dire of form
the beast that laid them low
Hrothgar's sharpened frost-forged blade
to deal a fatal blow
he stalked and hunted day and night
and came upon it's lair
With sword and shield Hrothgar fought
and earned the name of slayer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 18:20:36
Subject: Blood angels at smaller points
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The LR most certainly does NOT have Decent. Transports do not gain the attributes of their cargo.
At 1000 points, I would consider:
Libby
AS x5, flamer, power weapon, razorback
AS x5, flamer, power weapon, razorback
Baal
Baal
MM attack bike
Vindicator
Predator, autocannon, lascannon
That's a lot of mech at 1000 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 18:28:12
Subject: Re:Blood angels at smaller points
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
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Ragnar Blackmane wrote:Just play Mephi at 500 pts. and make your enemy cry  ...
GK Grand Master with Retinue...goodnight... mephi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 20:18:45
Subject: Blood angels at smaller points
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Thanks for the replys guys.
The land raider list, allthough probably very competitive doesnt seem to have the blood angels flavor I'm looking for.
I'm not looking for the fluffiest list ever but also not the cheesiest (this is for friendly but mildly competitive gaming)
I like the 1000Point list mnemoch posted (It would obliterate my 1K SM army) allthough I might try and re-work it some..
But I've decided to go ahead and purchase two baal preds since they look oh so very cool and seem to be in everyones BA lists at the moment.
Again thanks for the help all
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/16 20:21:39
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/16 21:19:15
Subject: Re:Blood angels at smaller points
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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ductvader wrote:Ragnar Blackmane wrote:Just play Mephi at 500 pts. and make your enemy cry  ...
GK Grand Master with Retinue...goodnight... mephi
Goodnight, sweet lord...
Anyways, Mephi ain't as strong as you might think. If he isn't near anybody, he cant do much, now can he?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/17 07:22:04
Subject: Blood angels at smaller points
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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I played a 1000 point today. This is the list I used:
Librarian-175
-epistolary
-j pack
x2 Sang priests 150
-jump packs
Assault Squad(10) 230
-powerfist
-melta gun
-flamer
Assault Squad(10) 225
-powerfist
-melta gun
Devestator squad(10)
-2 plas cannons
-missle launcher
-heavy bolter
Split the dev squad into 2 groups with one plas in each. Did pretty good vs the eldar I faced. Libby failed to counter a single power. Those Dire Avengers hurt like heck then after getting Guide and me doomed. Lost half the assault squad and the Sang priest. ;_; Then they went to get revenge.
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RAGE
Be sure to use logic! Avoid fallacies whenever possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/18 06:34:31
Subject: Blood angels at smaller points
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Fixture of Dakka
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Just got unlucky.. I mean, even with doom + guide they only do something like 2-3 wounds
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 12:25:12
Subject: Re:Blood angels at smaller points
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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ductvader wrote:Ragnar Blackmane wrote:Just play Mephi at 500 pts. and make your enemy cry  ...
GK Grand Master with Retinue...goodnight... mephi
I love GK and would always back them up but sorry, Mephiston goes first with 6 attacks w/out charging, and he has his own force weapon. He can also have preferred enemy and s10.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 14:01:12
Subject: Blood angels at smaller points
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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I'm planning to build an all jump pack list that looks something like this:
Librarian - Jump Pack, Blood Lance, Shield of Sanguinius
Sanguinary Priest - Jump Pack, Power Weapon
Sanguinary Priest - Jump Pack
10 Assault Marines - Power Fist, 2 Meltaguns
10 Assault Marines - Power Fist, 2 Meltaguns
10 Assault Marines - Power Fist, 2 Meltaguns
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 14:02:18
Subject: Re:Blood angels at smaller points
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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My LGS has a 750 Ard Boyz tourney coming up, here is the list I am using:
HQ: Librarian (Blood Lance, Shield of Sanguinis) - 100
Troop: 5 Assault Marines w/ Heavy-Flamer Razorback - 120
Troop: 10 Assault Marines w/ PF and Flamer - 220
Elite: Sanguinary Priest w/ Jump Pack - 75
Heavy: Predator w/ Auto and Las - 135
Heavy: Predator w/ Auto and HB - 100
The list works well with 3 vehicles. You could substitute the HB Pred with a Dread or Baal, but this is all I have model wise so far. Having a full 10 man Assault Squad with a Priest is really nasty at this level.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/19 23:31:24
Subject: Re:Blood angels at smaller points
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Legionnaire
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The list ive played in about 5 games that seems to work pretty well is Librarian 125 -jump pack -Rage -Blood lance 10 man tac squad 240 -melta -ML -rhino - teleport homer 10 man assualt squad 235 -melta -melta -power weapon -hand flamer Furioso Dreadnought 160 -blood talons -drop pod Baal Predator 115 -flamestorm Baal Predator 115 -flamestorm Total= 990
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Khador 35 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/20 01:29:28
Subject: Blood angels at smaller points
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Decide now between jump spam or mech BA. Both are good ways to go. Mech has a larger variety of units though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/20 01:52:13
Subject: Blood angels at smaller points
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Member of the Malleus
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Kirasu wrote:Just got unlucky.. I mean, even with doom + guide they only do something like 2-3 wounds
Unless your oppenent has a full squad of Dire Avengers with Bladestorm as well, 30+ shots is brutal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/20 02:02:18
Subject: Re:Blood angels at smaller points
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
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phantommaster wrote:ductvader wrote:Ragnar Blackmane wrote:Just play Mephi at 500 pts. and make your enemy cry  ...
GK Grand Master with Retinue...goodnight... mephi
I love GK and would always back them up but sorry, Mephiston goes first with 6 attacks w/out charging, and he has his own force weapon. He can also have preferred enemy and s10.
He's got to cut through that whole retinue first.
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