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I was just wondering if Orks have a special rule for this or something. The way I see it is, Open Topped you can disembark and assault afterwards. Fast Vehicles say you can't disembark if you move Flat Out (or embark if its going to move Flat Out).

So how do Orks move Flat Out, disembark, shoot, assault?

HiveFleetGoliath wrote:I was just wondering if Orks have a special rule for this or something. The way I see it is, Open Topped you can disembark and assault afterwards. Fast Vehicles say you can't disembark if you move Flat Out (or embark if its going to move Flat Out).

So how do Orks move Flat Out, disembark, shoot, assault?

Quite simply, they don't. What made you think they could?

So I might have to talk with a friend about his Orks....

HiveFleetGoliath wrote:So I might have to talk with a friend about his Orks....

Yes, I think you should!

Orks can, at most, move 13" (RPJ) and still disembark.

Ok, my understanding of vehicles is probably complete. I used to only run Tyranids and never used a vehicle before, now I have Blood Angels and now that I have Vehicles (Fast ones too) I had to re-check the rules on them and that brought up an incident in the last tourny I played.

Thanks.

Essenmtially you have two restrictions:

1) you CANNOT disembark after moving flat out
2) models that disembark from a moved vehicle cannot assault

While Open Topped does raise the restriction on 2), but says nothing about 1)

ok just to double check for my new BTemplar Army, if I jump out of sasy a Rhino before it moves, my squad can move and assualt normally correct

doubled wrote:ok just to double check for my new BTemplar Army, if I jump out of sasy a Rhino before it moves, my squad can move and assualt normally correct

Yup. The squad is free to do what it likes if it disembarkes before the transport moves.

It's maximum 21 inches in the sense that the vehicle moves 13", the models disembark 2", and then they assault 6" but if it moves farther than 13" they can't jump out.

Regwon wrote:

doubled wrote:ok just to double check for my new BTemplar Army, if I jump out of sasy a Rhino before it moves, my squad can move and assualt normally correct

Yup. The squad is free to do what it likes if it disembarkes before the transport moves.

There is a catch to that though. The Rhino in question can't have even pivoted for the marines to be able to assault

To the main topic though, I'm surprised the Ork player could make that mistake. It is possible to get further then 21' with either WAAAGH! 22-27 with the normal one and if you rule Thraka as granting an auto 6 them 27 for his.

Keep in mind that, though you can't disembark after moving flat out, if you ram forward 19" and hit a vehicle, you're going to be putting a strength 6 hit on your Trukk, which stands a decent chance of wreaking it. On the Ramshackle table, every result includes the Boyz "disembarking," so if you're opponent rolls a 5 or 6 to penetrate, then a 4+ for a Ramshackle result, you have a decent chance of having your Boyz out and ready to charge.

Mathammer says you have a 19.2% chance of getting a Ramshackle roll off of a 18" ram, and then you just have to hope, if you get a 3-4, that the scatter is good.

OK if I through my shoota boyz in a trukk say, and the truck shoots and kills target A, can the embarked squad pick a new target or are they SOL??

Given that the Trukk and the embarked unit are seperate units, you can ALWAYS shoot a different target to the target the trukk has shot at.