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A friend of mine has a bunch of unpainted and half assembled space marines that he never uses. I was thinking of buying them of him and using them for the basis of a Nurgle/Slanesh Venereal Disease themed army.

One of the things I was planning on converting was a counts as Lash Sorcerer. It'd be a Normal Plague Marine with a Deamonette with a lash riding b**ch.

I also want to run CSM bikers with a standard of Nurgle for T6(4) goodness. Is the idea was practical at all or if Nurgle bikers are just a point sink? Does anyone else run Nurgle bikers? If so how to you take them? Suggestions? Feedback?

While I do not run them, I think they can be pretty brutal.

If you do go with it, I would suggest a full squad of 10, with a lord on a bike with a Nurgle Daemon Weapon (before people cry about this set up, it is very good, just ask the winner of the SIS), and then the lash sorcerer on a bike. That is a hugely expensive unit, but also one that is potentially game winning.

Is it a tournament winning army? I don't know, but it is a pretty bad ass unit and it would look spectacular.

Hahaha, and yeah, a venereal disease themed army is funny as hell!

For troops, just run some MSU plague marines to take and hold objectives and you should be fine.

Heavy support as you like it.

I think it would be a cool army and if you can build it on the cheap, why not try it out?

I think the problem with nurgle bikers is that they arent nurgle bikers.. Theyre simply marines on bikes with an icon of nurgle..

if they were T5(6) theyd be amazing, yet for the price you pay you still get killed by ML instantly and dont even get FNP vs eldar like normal nurgle does (which makes eldar so much weaker)

Do you think Meching out the rest of the list would help? All the S8 or better shooting would have to decide between the bikers and whatever tanks I brought to the field.

I'm probably also going to pick up a Greater Daemon of Nurgle at some point. Mostly so I can convert it, I'm thinking putting it in a greenstuff bikini in a Baywatch sort of running pose.

IT works good with a SGD and a deamon bomb.

Kirasu:

Actually, it's funny that you mention it, but if there were Plague Marine Bikers they'd still die to a 2+ to wound roll without benefit of armour (AP3) or Feel No Pain (S8 v T4).

The Icon of Tzeentch at least gives them a saving throw against stuff that tears up Bikers and Plague Marines alike.

i think the point cost is far too high for this unit. i had considered it but then realized i could fill my fast attack needs with two squads of raptors for less money and less points and get the same job done. bikers in general i feel cost to much money and too mayn points

This thread about chaos bikers intrigues me as I have some spare unassembled bikers at home, waiting to do some damage on the table. I can personally see some ideas on how to use them but since they are overpriced, I personally see it hard to "squeeze" them it without either forming a dodgy easy to kill deathstar unit or a small suicide melta squad (3 bikes, 2 melta guns).

What are everyone’s ideas on using bikes as optimally/usefully as possible?

CSM bikes are over costed, I think everyone agrees with that, and that only real way to run them is with MoN or MoT, or as a tiny GD delivery system or as a tank hunter squad.

I think it would be more for a themed army than a really competitive army, but it could make for a nasty Deathstar....sort of, it actually doesn't hit that hard. But at toughness 6 or with a 5++, speed and a large frontage you can reach out and tie up a lot of stuff and keep them tied up.

The Nurgle Lord with Daemon weapon effectively had lightening claws against tough 4 or lower with an average of 8 attacks on the charge. That is no joke. Plus wounding anything above tough 4 is solid, as well, it's just that damn hurt yourself on a 1 that makes it iffy.

Combo that with a lash sorcerer and you have a squad that is really nasty, fast, can pull units around and what not, but is terribly vulnerable to an IG PSB or even an unlucky tank shock.

I think you could make it work though. You would need at least 3 squads of PM in rhinos for scoring duty, small squads, no more than 7.

After that, I would go with defilers or Oblits for anti armor and crowd control.

Maybe not the most competitive army, but you could make it look really characterful and with practice I would see it beating most opponents, just IG and wolves really spanking it hard.

Only way? I'd say IoCG is in the 'useful' crowd as well.
Don't want the special weapon delivery systems running away at 3D6" .

Nurlge DW Lord is ok, but over costed similarly to the bikers (with respect to the Vanilla Captain and the scoring bikers issue...).

CSM bikers pay through the nose, but compared to the loyalists, they hit at least twice as hard.
Lash Sorc is nice, but not when part of the 'Death Star'. It means you MUST commit when the bikers are not turboing...and leaving lash out of the squad leaves it flexible in what it chooses to lash...as the bikers will most likely be conga-lining charges...not exactly focusing on one unit as their points cost really doesn't allow that kind of play IMO.

I used to play a large biker squad...but I moved onto the Count As Loyalist scoring biker route and never looked back.
Not having 400 point biker squads score is a huge pain in the ass really.