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Gundam-Mecha wrote:What putty are you using?

Some work very well with sanding, like Milliput. Others not so well, like Green Stuff.

I've found that Pro Create is somewhere between the two, and liquid based putties like Squadron sand very well too. Although Squadron white (like Miliput white) is smoother with much finer grain.

I never used to sand before, but I did a little for aircraft (where it sadly is essential) and I found it very useful.

Doesn't have to be anything crazy, but a gentle pass over a few times might really help in the areas where there are any scratches or surface imperfections.

GF-9 Gray stuff.

Cool.



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dsteingass wrote:
It is MUCH MUCH cheaper to buy big sheets of automotive bodywork sandpaper (black grit stuff) and cut them down into smaller sheets.

Although, I am ordering a set of these from MicroMark (e-mail sale ends today!)

Those pique my interest Dave!

the price sounds nice...but i atm use very cheapo cosmetic files and they do for me...

Me too Vik. DOH! I didn't get my order placed yesterday! I totally forgot, sale is over now.

dsteingass wrote:Me too Vik. DOH! I didn't get my order placed yesterday! I totally forgot, sale is over
now.

Ooops!

dsteingass wrote:Me too Vik. DOH! I didn't get my order placed yesterday! I totally forgot, sale is over now.

oh that sucks...but being micromark...the next sale is bound to happen...counting...three...two...one...sale yeay^^

Yeah, they have a new scratch build model making DVD I want to order anyways, and those never go on sale. I really wanted to try those 4 corner clamps though...oh well, like you said..next sale is soon

yesterday my wife looked into the micro mark catalogue...it is still in throne room...and guess what she found out...?

the only woman inside this whole piece of paper that is shown...wields what? guess...














a vacuum cleaner LOL...

shasolenzabi wrote:

GF-9 Gray stuff.

That will be Pro Create then, or if not the same product extremely similar (apparently GF-9 Grey is just repackaged Pro Create or so they say). You should find it works okay with sanding. Better than fully cured Green Stuff.



For me personally my favourite is Miliput white. It hold edges and sharp corners very well, can be blended in and smoothed with water, and sand's like a dream.

i currently work with milliput...the grew yellow stuff...and i must say it is hard to get a shape done withg that... any tips on using that stuff? getting shapes like you want is for me easier with GS but getting smooth surfaces works best with miiliput...

All good stuff to know!

Viktor von Domm wrote:i currently work with milliput...the grew yellow stuff...and i must say it is hard to get a shape done withg that... any tips on using that stuff? getting shapes like you want is for me easier with GS but getting smooth surfaces works best with miiliput...

I use Miliput Superfine White only these days (never tried the brown or silver versions). And find it takes a sharp hard edge very well. Actually ironically I find the reverse! I use Green Stuff for smooth shapes and cloth and Miliput for harder shapes.

I have a bunch of different artists clay shapers that I use, moistened with water. Clay shapers with sharp edges on them are useful. I have one shaped like a chisel, and I use that very carefuly to make hard lines and right angles in the putty.

I've always found personally that clay shapers are much kinder that metal sculpting tools, and give much nicer results. Although I do still use Metal tools sometimes too.

maybe it is all because of my tool...i think i should try other sculpting methods as i am quite pleased with the material itself...

when i said smooth surfaces then i meant that GS tends to be bumby when i work with it... but that is also only tool related ...so when i tool up a bit i think i get better ^^

I really found that when I switched to rubber tipped clay shapers things really picked up for me.

Personally I had only used metal sculpting tools before then, and then I first tried the clay shapers I was like, wow!

Green Stuff can can give a bad surface texture sometimes. I always mix mine to death for a few minutes to try and get rid of nasty lumps. I guess thats because I'm used to mixing up Miliput white for a long time (it's very hard to see when it's mixed into a uniform colour as both parts are white!).

You always manage to get some bits of gunk in stuff though. Especially sometimes if a random metal or plastic shaving from earlier building blows into the mixture when your making it up or something like that.

Viktor von Domm wrote:yesterday my wife looked into the micro mark catalogue...it is still in throne room...and guess what she found out...?

the only woman inside this whole piece of paper that is shown...wields what? guess...

a vacuum cleaner LOL...

Not true!
There is that little Italian Hottie Anna Maria Foscale who does the model RR structure DVD!

ah...i have to search for that woman then^^

and gundam mecha...
i try to keep the sculpting material very clean... i work on a clean srubbed glasplate even...and after some rather horrible tries of GW GS...(awfully stuff right there) i bought me a package of galeforce 9 GS and that is for now the best GS i know of...(well i know only two brands...so...)

soon the silicon tipped tools will hit my desk too...tools define as much the possible quality of works as the expiereince of the sclupter does...

Thanks guys! You are teaching me about new tools I can use to work on my own projects with,,,,just need money flow.

Viktor von Domm wrote:after some rather horrible tries of GW GS...(awfully stuff right there) i bought me a package of galeforce 9 GS and that is for now the best GS i know of...(well i know only two brands...so...)

soon the silicon tipped tools will hit my desk too...tools define as much the possible quality of works as the expiereince of the sclupter does...

I think actually my GS I got from a scale model shop. So yes I agree there too!

You're definitely right about tools! Personally I'm not that great at sculpting. I can do simple things, cloth, some armour, etc, but never tried a whole figure from scratch. I really found the different tools really helped my limited sculpting go up.


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shasolenzabi wrote:,,,,just need money flow.

Tell me about it!!!! Forgeworld kills my bank account!!!

Hence my purchase of Old Crow and alternative models getting more tanks for the price of one FW tank is nothing to sneeze at, as well as my scratchbuilt monsters!

if you can do so called simple things my hat is off to you sir! as even those give me quite some trouble ^^ that´s why i work for now with PC to get certain looks...tho i have to say i never really did small scale stuff with GS ...yet...^^

shasolenzabi wrote:Hence my purchase of Old Crow and alternative models getting more tanks for the price of one FW tank is nothing to sneeze at, as well as my scratchbuilt monsters!

I totally agree! Scratch building is great fun!

I'm tempted.... real tempted to get one of those big FW fire dragons though!

fantasy with all their monsters involved have a serious problem in the scracthbuilding department tho...that´s why i feel so homely with 40k^^

It's just easier to replicate things built from sheets and blocks of material IRL, with miniature sheets and blocks. People just don't scratchbuild a lot of Fantasy terrain because WHFB is a troop formation game, needing more flat surfaces where 40k is squad-based, and meant to simulate a different type of warfare. Mordheim, on the other hand, is fantasy, but almost requires scratchbuilding.

well of course terrain is something that needs to be scratchbuild regardless the theme you play in...(couldn´t bring myself to play with terrain just bought...)

but in fantasy you don´t have that many oprtunities for scratchbuilding models like tanks, planes or such likes...

No, I suppose not as much, since things in Fantasy are generally organic in nature...
But don't close your mind to it....

wouldn´t dream of it mate^^
building stuff with my own hands always feels rewarding!

If I could do some truly mad sculpting, I could make my own version of fantasy and mythical monsters!

well...it all depends on the time you have at hand...

True on that. But if i could do so, imagine what monsters I could make!?


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I mean you have seen my tanky goodness here

with a toy as a base or a totaly from scratch sculpt?...hmmm...regardless the base...endless potentiallity^^

Total sculpt, from wires posed on up!