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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 21:38:22
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
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Have burned through 5 cans of Chaos Black spray in the last three months, between commissions and my own work. That's $75 w/o tax that could have been spent on miniatures.
Is there a good-quality spray primer that's cheaper than GW's? What do you use?
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"That's an impossible shot, Batman" -Robin
"That's a negative attitude, Robin" -Batman
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 22:12:52
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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lol ouch.
I use krylon flat black, or the generic walmart 'colorplace' flat black(its like 1.20 a can).
Both work just as well, if not better, than the GW stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 22:17:45
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Huge Hierodule
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I use Krylon Flat Black as well. I just picked up a can of Rustoleum Flat Black and that turned out pretty good as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 23:27:47
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
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Krylon ftw!
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"The heraldic cross stands proud on my chest, where Astartes of lesser Chapters wear the Emperor’s aquila. We do not wear His symbol. We are His symbol." - Chaplain Grimaldus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 00:10:39
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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Duplicolor for me. Yes, it's autoprimer, but it works wonderfully on miniatures too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 00:15:21
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=TM87042 This and the "Fine Surface" version are what I exclusively use.
It covers so deliciously nicely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 00:49:06
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Rustoleum Primer, comes in White/Black/Grey/Brown
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 01:44:01
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
Texas, USA
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Thanks everyone!
Will have to try some Krylon...good god, $1.20 a can....I could get more than ten of those for the price of one can of Chaos Black....*mega mega mega facepalm*
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"That's an impossible shot, Batman" -Robin
"That's a negative attitude, Robin" -Batman
I offer commission painting. See the Painting Service list in the Dakka Swap Shop for details.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 02:45:32
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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If you only need black/grey/white the cheapo walmart stuff at 1.20 a can works as good as the krylon.
A freind of mine swore the GW stuff was better, higher quality, blah blah redshirt sales BS blah blah.
So I switched some of his primed figs with identical ones of mine that were base coated with the walmart stuff vs his GW black. He couldnt tell the difference until he realized the first 5 had a thicker coat on them(he had a heavy hand with the spray) and the ones I primed had a lighter coat.
He then bought the walmart stuff, and the price difference covered the pizza while we sat around painting all night.
Summary:
Chaos Black spray can-15$ = meh.
generic spray thats jsut as good-1.20$ + pizza= Win
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 03:09:19
Subject: Re:Alternative spray primer?
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Anyone know of any spray paint that can paint foam?
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malfred wrote:Buy what you like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 03:16:47
Subject: Re:Alternative spray primer?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mewiththeface wrote:Anyone know of any spray paint that can paint foam?
The Rustoleum primer I use doesn't harm Blue Foam.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 04:56:28
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
Texas, USA
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Alternatively paint a watered-down cloat of PVA over the foam before spraying...I've heard this protects it and stops it from melting
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"That's an impossible shot, Batman" -Robin
"That's a negative attitude, Robin" -Batman
I offer commission painting. See the Painting Service list in the Dakka Swap Shop for details.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 05:20:39
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ifurita wrote:I use Krylon Flat Black as well. I just picked up a can of Rustoleum Flat Black and that turned out pretty good as well.
I agree on this
I have also used Rustoleum Automotive primer with alot of sucess but it is kinda a dark grey not black.
I find that the automotive primer gives a nice smooth finish. Automatically Appended Next Post: Mewiththeface wrote:Anyone know of any spray paint that can paint foam?
if you do white foam coat it with a 1:1 mixture of White Glue and water first then paint with whatever you want.
the blue foam rustoleum and krylon work fine to my knowledge as said above.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 06:01:33
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Colorplace 1.29/can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 06:16:59
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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I use Armory spray primer. About 6 bucks a can, and good stuff. A really badass commission painter I know uses it, and if it's good enough for him it's good enough for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 06:41:36
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I second Krylon primer. Rustoleum self-etching primer is good too. Auto levels so it's near impossible to get runs in it.
I tried Armory and it was gakky.
For painting over plastic without priming try the Krylon Fusion or the Rust-o-leum Camoflauge flat colors.
Not a flatter black on earth than the rustoleum kamo flat black.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 07:41:29
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I alternate between rustoleum auto primer and the cheap valspar spray paint from Lowe's. The auto primer I picked mostly because I wanted to use it as a final color for my monolith - it was very dark grey, not quite black but close. I wound up using it elsewhere because it's got great "tooth" and sticks to weird stuff I'm using in conversions well. It's a little thicker then the Valspar, so I still use that for actual figurines or fine detail.
I also tried some spray paint from a office supply store, and that one sucked, it flaked right off.
I can't find a place around here that sells Krylon, which is far and away my first choice, remembered fondly from hours of community vandalism during my youth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 08:15:21
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Fateweaver wrote:
I tried Armory and it was gakky.
Did you shake the can? I've never had a single problem with Armory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 08:40:44
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, trust me it's not my skills. Been priming for 20 years.
$6 is still too much money for primer (Duplicolor gets close to that but still normally less than $5 per can).
I just know that with the exception of cans I forgot to bring in on cold winter nights (pro tip: primer/paint cans do not like to freeze) I've never had a can of Krylon or Rustoleum or Duplicolor fail. Not at -30F, not in 100% humidity.
I wouldn't be shocked if Krylon worked underwater. LOL.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 09:48:01
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Privateer
The paint dungeon, Arizona
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If you ever want to be able to strip those figs- I wouldnt recomend any self etching primer, nor krylon fusion(and its a gloss only I believe). That stuff never comes off and Ive seen alot of figs ruined by it since they arent very forgiving to work with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 17:45:00
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Trust me on that. Fusion is near impossible to get all way off.
I've never had problems with self-etching primer. Sure if I feth up the primer job it'd be nasty to work around but thankfully those primers are fairly forgiving in their application.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 21:05:34
Subject: Re:Alternative spray primer?
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Implacable Skitarii
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I've been using armory and i like how it turns out more than any other primer I've used to date. and its still a lot cheaper than GW's primer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 21:15:55
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Nasty Nob
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I can't believe that people use GW spraypaint - it is SO expensive! But apparently it sells well enough else it wouldn't be on the shelves, right?
I imagine that people who are new to the hobby either don't realize that there are cheaper alternatives out there or else they're afraid that nothing's better than GW for their intended application (spraying models).
Thank goodness for boards like these!
My recent fave - Rustoleum 2x. You get twice as much in the can and the nozzle is of a much better design. I must have seven cans on the shelf at home with clogged nozzles - nothing worse than having this happen when the can is still 1/2 full. Anyway, I am done mucking about with pins in the nozzle, special solvents, swapping nozzles, and so on. It's 2x for me, baby!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 21:52:34
Subject: Re:Alternative spray primer?
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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As most of the posters on this thread are of an American nature can anyone reccomend a British alternative, as Krylon is hard to come by. would a standard automotive primer don the job?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 22:03:54
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Any automotive primer.
I've heard Halfords is good.
Auto primer is designed to take the beating that cars take. I'm sure it'll do just fine on 40k/Fantasy minis.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 00:50:48
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I use the Army Painter stuff, base coat and primer in one that has a really nice finish is a win for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 03:05:49
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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Mistress of minis wrote:lol ouch.
I use krylon flat black, or the generic walmart 'colorplace' flat black(its like 1.20 a can).
Both work just as well, if not better, than the GW stuff.
the walmart colorplace is the best spray primer for minis and that is coming from a person who has used hundreds of cans of different primers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 06:26:13
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Never tried.
I loves me my Krylon too much.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/11 21:28:05
Subject: Re:Alternative spray primer?
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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I just thought I would give a little feedback, I bought and used Halfords plastic primer (in red) and it is a really good primer. It gave a nice even smooth coat.
Edit: The price was very good as well £3.99 for a 300ml can and £5.99 for a 500ml can
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/11 21:32:54
Subject: Alternative spray primer?
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Poxed Plague Monk
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I use Rustoleums Grey Primer. It works wonders!
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