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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 05:01:11
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Asurmen
-230
Farseer
Doom
2 Warlocks
1 Spirit Seer
(1 Farseer and 3 warlock models in total)
-161
Elites
7 Howling Banshees
1 Exarch
Executioner
-150
Troops
10 guardians
Star cannon
-105
10 guardinas
Star Cannon
-105
5 Rangers
-95
9 Dire Avengers
1 Exarch
Power Weapon
Shimmer shield
-142
2 Wave serpents
Twin-linked Scatter Laser
Spirit Stones
-250
Heavy Support
Wraith Lord
2 Flamers
Bright Lance
-130
Wraith Lord
2 Flamers
Bright Lance
-130
The general plan is for the Farseer to join the banshees in one Wave Serpent (and use doom to help them wound), and for Asurmen to join the Dire Avengers in the other Wave Serpent.
These two units will move in early on isolated threats (together if needed) while the guardians, wave serpents, and wraith lords will shoot any big scary stuff that is too well protected. The warlocks will mostly be supporting/babysitting the wraithlords.
Any suggestions on changes to the list or what to do with it?
EDIT: I'm expecting to face Tyranids, marines, and another eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 06:17:10
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
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well, I suggest dropping the starcannons for EML for two reasons krak and plasma, would be incredibly useful..i didnt see many many blast weapons in your army just thought it'd be useful against nids. Then that frees up 10pt so I'd also add acrobatic and war shout to the banshees. it'd be great for cutting up assault marines...well basically most CC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 08:07:38
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Indeed, looks like a newbie list.
If you take foot slogging Guardians then attack an Avatar.
Asurmen is not bad but overpriced for what he can achieve at the battle field.
The Banshees should be taken in a full unit.
The Farseer should better stay in the back field able to fortune the Avatar and doom the enemy unit the Banshees are charging.
A small unit of Warlocks is useless, drop it.
The DA unit should have blade storm, nothing else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 09:02:18
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Wicked Warp Spider
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I would lose Asurmen and the Farseer and take Eldrad and you should have enough for ten banshees which don't really need an exarch. Get rid of rangers and you might want a Falcon or Fire Prism for exttra punch and mobilty or you could add more Wave serpents with bright lances or missle launchers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 09:03:14
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, Eldrad is too expensive in 1500 pt games.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 10:35:27
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Wicked Warp Spider
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OK, a small squad of warlocks is a waste. Also, a solo farseer can join banshees and ride with them. A farseer+warlocks is a whole seperate unit, and cannot hitch a ride. Either take a farseer with doom (runes of warding and singing spear are often useful) to go with the banshees, or scrap the banshees, go with a farseer + at least 6 warlocks. The farseer will NEED fortune, the warlocks should have at least one enhance.
Asurmen seems pretty overpriced for what he brings to the table. He's an assault character for a non-assault aspect. I would drop him, spending a lot on HQ seems counter-productive.
Star cannons are flat-out terrible, consider scatter lasers or EMLs for this type of squad. I'm in the 'never take guardians at all' camp, but if you do, those are the options to take. An avatar is a good buy if you plan on fielding more of these guys.
Rangers are either pathfinders or nothing. The difference is phenomenal.
Wraithlords are good, wraithswords might be a good idea here. Remember you'll want a warlock or psyker around to stop them going inactive on you at crucial moments. Perhaps a warlock in one of the guardian squads, with the spiritseer upgrade?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 14:12:41
Subject: Re:Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ok, I have made some changes to the list. I want to try Asurmen in the list, so I kept him for now.
I think I want to keep the star cannons on the guardians (eldar player runs wraithguard and 3 wraith lords, marines player has terminators, and nid player has a few big things with 3+ or better save)
Asurmen
-230
Farseer
Doom
Runes of Warding
Runes of Witnessing
-105
Elites
8 Howling Banshees
1 Exarch
Executioner
War Shout
Acrobatic
-176
Troops
10 guardians
Star cannon
Warlock(Spiritseer)
-136
10 guardinas
Star Cannon
Warlock(Spiritseer)
-136
9 Dire Avengers
1 Exarch
Power Weapon
Shimmer shield
-142
2 Wave serpents
Twin-linked Scatter Laser
Spirit Stones
-250
Heavy Support
Wraith Lord
2 Flamers
Bright Lance
-130
Wraith Lord
2 Flamers
Bright Lance
-130
War Walker
2 Scatter Lasers
Spirit Stones
-65
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 15:05:42
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Drop the spirit stones on the war walker and the acrobatics (keep the war shout) and get Defend for the dire avengers. Dropping the spirit seer upgrades and 1 more point I believe will also get you bladestorm. What power do the warlocks have (hopefully conceal)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 15:06:01
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Asurmen is not bad, but at the competitive level I won't consider him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 15:21:48
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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steinerp wrote:Drop the spirit stones on the war walker and the acrobatics (keep the war shout) and get Defend for the dire avengers. Dropping the spirit seer upgrades and 1 more point I believe will also get you bladestorm. What power do the warlocks have (hopefully conceal)
The plan is for the Dire Avengers to get Bladestorm and Defend from Asurmen
wuestenfux wrote:Asurmen is not bad, but at the competitive level I won't consider him.
It's friendly games
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/28 15:25:33
Subject: Newbie Eldar 1500pts
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Accersitus wrote:steinerp wrote:Drop the spirit stones on the war walker and the acrobatics (keep the war shout) and get Defend for the dire avengers. Dropping the spirit seer upgrades and 1 more point I believe will also get you bladestorm. What power do the warlocks have (hopefully conceal)
The plan is for the Dire Avengers to get Bladestorm and Defend from Asurmen
wuestenfux wrote:Asurmen is not bad, but at the competitive level I won't consider him.
It's friendly games
Its fine for friendly games.
If you give the DA Exarch a shimmershield and the Farseer fortune, the DA unit is hard to beat, even without Asurmen.
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