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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 03:12:48
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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Silly question probably, but...
If i have a long fang squad, which splits its fire on say a Leman russ and a Chimera, who am i supposed to assault? Can i simply choose? (for the purposes of this question, Logan Grimnar IS in the unit and giving them relentless USR, hence the move and shoot the HW's  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 03:14:16
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Jihallah wrote:Silly question probably, but...
If i have a long fang squad, which splits its fire on say a Leman russ and a Chimera, who am i supposed to assault? Can i simply choose? (for the purposes of this question, Logan Grimnar IS in the unit and giving them relentless USR, hence the move and shoot the HW's  )
You can choose, since both units are the unit the unit shot at, which means the unit can legally assault either unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 03:16:10
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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Gwar! wrote:Jihallah wrote:Silly question probably, but...
If i have a long fang squad, which splits its fire on say a Leman russ and a Chimera, who am i supposed to assault? Can i simply choose? (for the purposes of this question, Logan Grimnar IS in the unit and giving them relentless USR, hence the move and shoot the HW's  )
You can choose, since both units are the unit the unit shot at, which means the unit can legally assault either unit.
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Cheers bud
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 03:20:26
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I say you choose. Thats my vote! Nothing to say you can't.
Don't care for the assault move, but giving the LFs relentless is clever...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 03:21:49
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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Byte wrote:I say you choose. Thats my vote! Nothing to say you can't.
Don't care for the assault move, but giving the LFs relentless is clever...
So Logan Grimnar should sit there and give them all pats on the back  you know that bad boy wants to crack some skulls
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 03:40:32
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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He could groom his beard while the fangs split fire while moving around like terms... sweet...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 09:40:22
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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It's how I roll my Logan. Droppod + heavy bolter long fangs + assault cannon terminator. Results may vary, awesomeness assured.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 16:26:53
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Sslimey Sslyth
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Another good synergy is Logan, Pod, Missile Launcher LFs, and a CML Terminator. Seven mobile crack/frag missile shots per turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 22:22:03
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 22:43:56
Subject: Re:Long fangs splitting fire question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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For around 500pts you should lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/29 22:48:03
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Remember that the Squad Leader has to be alive and can't shoot in the turn that the Long Fangs use Fire Control.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 00:59:51
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm not sure you can actually assault when you split fire. The trick is this, the BRB (p.33) reads that "[the assaulting unit] cannot assault a different unit to [sic] the one it previously shot at." Now, here's the way it would work: you shot units A and B. You want to assault unit A. Your opponent asks "did you shoot at unit B?" You answer "yes" and since unit A is "a different unit" you cannot legally assault it.
For the record, though, that interpretation sucks like a black hole. In any game I were playing outside of a tournament I would just say sure assault whoever you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 20:36:32
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Seriously, this seems totally stupid. Can anyone answer this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 20:42:06
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Charging Wild Rider
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you don't fire one then the other you fire at both units at the same time. Pick who your going to assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 20:44:02
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Inside a pretty, pretty pain cave... won't you come inside?
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I think Gwar!'s interpretation is the best, as far as RAI goes. Anyone who says you can't because you ALSO fired at another unit deserves the punch in the face they would receive.
Frankly, the whole "can only assault who you shoot" is a dumb restriction and creates more problems than it solves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 21:08:39
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Here's a situation I'm not sure about:
Assault Squad A shoots at a chimera and fails to bust it open.
Devastator Squad B then shoots it and explodes it.
Can Assault Squad A assault the veterans that spill out?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 21:14:54
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
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Bavius wrote:It's how I roll my Logan. Droppod + heavy bolter long fangs + assault cannon terminator. Results may vary, awesomeness assured.
I prefer Drop Pod + 6 Long Fangs with Multi-Meltas and Relentless on the turn they drop in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 21:34:27
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Skarboy wrote:I think Gwar!'s interpretation is the best, as far as RAI goes. Anyone who says you can't because you ALSO fired at another unit deserves the punch in the face they would receive.
Frankly, the whole "can only assault who you shoot" is a dumb restriction and creates more problems than it solves.
Did you just use "Gwar!" and " RaI" in the same sentence?!?
Seriously though, I agree that this is the best and most true interpretation!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 21:40:57
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Alpharius wrote:Skarboy wrote:I think Gwar!'s interpretation is the best, as far as RAI goes. Anyone who says you can't because you ALSO fired at another unit deserves the punch in the face they would receive.
Frankly, the whole "can only assault who you shoot" is a dumb restriction and creates more problems than it solves.
Did you just use "Gwar!" and " RaI" in the same sentence?!?
Seriously though, I agree that this is the best and most true interpretation!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/30 22:26:03
Subject: Long fangs splitting fire question
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Making Stuff
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Fearspect wrote:Here's a situation I'm not sure about:
Assault Squad A shoots at a chimera and fails to bust it open.
Devastator Squad B then shoots it and explodes it.
Can Assault Squad A assault the veterans that spill out?
The answer is No. Squad A shot at the Chimera, so the Chimera is the only unit against which they can declare an assault.
The rules allow the (singular) unit that shot and and subsequently destroyed the vehicle to assault the unit that bails out of it. Anybody else who shot at the vehicle is out of luck.
It's a fairly freqently discussed issue... if you want to see more of a break down of why it works that way, do a bit of a trawl back through the forums and you should turn up multiple discussions on it.
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