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So I got a tournament coming up this weekend it's a 2000pts team tournament. Couple of the rules are No Special Characters, each teammate has 1000pts, and teams share FOC organization. So here's what I coming up with haven't ran it by my partner yet tho Comment and criticism welcome and encouraged

HQ: Big Mek (1#, 90 pts)
. . 1 Big Mek @ 90 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 34 & 97); Independent Character; Unit Type: Infantry; Choppa; Kustom Force Field; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; 'Eavy Armour; Mek's Tools)

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (7#, 260 pts)
. . 5 Sternguard Veteran Squad @ 260 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Bolt Pistol x5; Bolter x2; Combi-Meltagun x1; Lascannon x2; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Razorback)
. . . . 1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Bolt Pistol; Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
. . . . 1 Razorback (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Assault Cannon)

Troops: Boyz (19#, 154 pts)
. . 18 Boyz @ 154 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Unit Type: Infantry; Shoota; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Power Klaw; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Bosspole)

Troops: Boyz (13#, 162 pts)
. . 11 Boyz @ 162 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Unit Type: Infantry; Choppa & Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Power Klaw; Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Bosspole)
. . . . 1 Trukk ((C:Orks, pp. 41 & 100); Unit Type: Vehicle (Fast, Open-topped); Rokkit Launcha; Ramshackle; Boarding Plank; Reinforced Ram)

Troops: Boyz (13#, 162 pts)
. . 11 Boyz @ 162 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Unit Type: Infantry; Choppa & Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Power Klaw; Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Bosspole)
. . . . 1 Trukk ((C:Orks, pp. 41 & 100); Unit Type: Vehicle (Fast, Open-topped); Rokkit Launcha; Ramshackle; Boarding Plank; Reinforced Ram)

Troops: Boyz (13#, 162 pts)
. . 11 Boyz @ 162 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Unit Type: Infantry; Choppa & Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Power Klaw; Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Bosspole)
. . . . 1 Trukk ((C:Orks, pp. 41 & 100); Unit Type: Vehicle (Fast, Open-topped); Rokkit Launcha; Ramshackle; Boarding Plank; Reinforced Ram)

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 250 pts)
. . 9 Tactical Squad @ 250 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x7; Meltagun; Missile Launcher; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Razorback)
. . . . 1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
. . . . 1 Razorback (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Lascannon)


Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 250 pts)
. . 9 Tactical Squad @ 250 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x7; Meltagun; Missile Launcher; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Razorback)
. . . . 1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
. . . . 1 Razorback (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Lascannon)


Fast Attack: Deffkoptas (1#, 70 pts)
. . 1 Deffkoptas @ 70 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 48 & 101); Unit Type: Jetbikes; Buzzsaw x1; Choppa; Twin Linked Rokkit Launcha x1; Furious Charge; Hit & Run; Mob Rule; Scouts)

Fast Attack: Deffkoptas (1#, 70 pts)
. . 1 Deffkoptas @ 70 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 48 & 101); Unit Type: Jetbikes; Buzzsaw x1; Choppa; Twin Linked Rokkit Launcha x1; Furious Charge; Hit & Run; Mob Rule; Scouts)

Heavy Support: Battlewagon (1#, 130 pts)
. . 1 Battlewagon @ 130 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 55 & 102); Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 20 models; Big Shoota x2; Armour Plates; Deff Rolla)

Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 120 pts)
. . 1 Predator @ 120 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Autocannon; Lascannon (each side))

Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 120 pts)
. . 1 Predator @ 120 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Autocannon; Lascannon (each side))

Seems pretty balanced to me. You'll both be moving really fast, that's for sure. There's a deceptively large amount of anti tank in your list too. All in all, I like it.

I was trying to take the strengths of each army to counter either inherent weaknesses of the other

Hellfire those font colours certainly feth with your eyes! lol.

Big mek is ok.

Sternguard, why lascannons? Sure they're cheap but they need to get into range with the bolters which you're paying premium points for btw, yet with a lascannon hanging back. You do not need to bunker down with sternguard unless scoring in a pedro list.

I'm not keen on autocannon and lascannon predators. The autocannon lacks strength to tackle even armour 12 but the lascannon has no problem.

Rest is spot on.

mercer wrote:Sternguard, why lascannons? Sure they're cheap but they need to get into range with the bolters which you're paying premium points for btw, yet with a lascannon hanging back. You do not need to bunker down with sternguard unless scoring in a pedro list.

Yeah the plan is to have the Marines pop transports first off then get rid of any tanks so my Orks can bash the troops inside. I was trying to get as much range firepower I could squeeze in. While sternguard do make decent mini devastators squads they might not be the best choice. Have to give it some more thought.

Perhaps change the sternguard razorback for lascannons instead? After all it is the only one which hasn't got lascannons and can pop a transport and the sternguard fire at the survivors.

Ok after some talking to my teammate he wanted a Librarian so I made some changes. Took out the lascannons on the sternguard and dropped a man, dropped the TL assault cannon on their razorback, and lost the meltaguns since the Tacticals are just gunna camp somewhere anyways. Little more steamlined I think.




HQ: Space Marine Librarian (1#, 100 pts)
. . 1 Space Marine Librarian @ 100 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; ...in Power Armour; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Tactics; Independent Character; Psyker; Null Zone; The Avenger)
. . . . 1 ...in Power Armour (Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Psychic Hood; Bolt Pistol; Force Weapon)

HQ: Big Mek (1#, 90 pts)
. . 1 Big Mek @ 90 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 34 & 97); Independent Character; Unit Type: Infantry; Choppa; Kustom Force Field; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; 'Eavy Armour; Mek's Tools)

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 170 pts)
. . 4 Sternguard Veteran Squad @ 170 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Bolt Pistol x4; Bolter x3; Combi-Meltagun x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Razorback)
. . . . 1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Bolt Pistol; Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
. . . . 1 Razorback (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Heavy Bolter)

Troops: Boyz (19#, 154 pts)
. . 18 Boyz @ 154 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Unit Type: Infantry; Shoota; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Power Klaw; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Bosspole)

Troops: Boyz (13#, 162 pts)
. . 11 Boyz @ 162 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Unit Type: Infantry; Choppa & Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Power Klaw; Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Bosspole)
. . . . 1 Trukk ((C:Orks, pp. 41 & 100); Unit Type: Vehicle (Fast, Open-topped); Rokkit Launcha; Ramshackle; Boarding Plank; Reinforced Ram)

Troops: Boyz (13#, 162 pts)
. . 11 Boyz @ 162 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Unit Type: Infantry; Choppa & Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Power Klaw; Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Bosspole)
. . . . 1 Trukk ((C:Orks, pp. 41 & 100); Unit Type: Vehicle (Fast, Open-topped); Rokkit Launcha; Ramshackle; Boarding Plank; Reinforced Ram)

Troops: Boyz (13#, 162 pts)
. . 11 Boyz @ 162 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Unit Type: Infantry; Choppa & Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!)
. . . . 1 Boyz Nob ((C:Orks, pp. 40 & 100); Power Klaw; Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!; Bosspole)
. . . . 1 Trukk ((C:Orks, pp. 41 & 100); Unit Type: Vehicle (Fast, Open-topped); Rokkit Launcha; Ramshackle; Boarding Plank; Reinforced Ram)

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 245 pts)
. . 9 Tactical Squad @ 245 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x7; Flamer; Missile Launcher; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Razorback)
. . . . 1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
. . . . 1 Razorback (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Lascannon)

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 245 pts)
. . 9 Tactical Squad @ 245 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x7; Flamer; Missile Launcher; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Razorback)
. . . . 1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Chainsword x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
. . . . 1 Razorback (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Lascannon)

Fast Attack: Deffkoptas (1#, 70 pts)
. . 1 Deffkoptas @ 70 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 48 & 101); Unit Type: Jetbikes; Buzzsaw x1; Choppa; Twin Linked Rokkit Launcha x1; Furious Charge; Hit & Run; Mob Rule; Scouts)

Fast Attack: Deffkoptas (1#, 70 pts)
. . 1 Deffkoptas @ 70 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 48 & 101); Unit Type: Jetbikes; Buzzsaw x1; Choppa; Twin Linked Rokkit Launcha x1; Furious Charge; Hit & Run; Mob Rule; Scouts)

Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 120 pts)
. . 1 Predator @ 120 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Autocannon; Lascannon (each side))

Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 120 pts)
. . 1 Predator @ 120 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Autocannon; Lascannon (each side))

Heavy Support: Battlewagon (1#, 130 pts)
. . 1 Battlewagon @ 130 pts ((C:Orks, pp. 55 & 102); Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 20 models; Big Shoota x2; Armour Plates; Deff Rolla