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Some quick questions that came up during a game we played this afternoon.

1) We all placed our HQs around the middle marker, does the Chaplian get to deploy in the middle "with" the extra retinue squad-thing it comes with? As it says they are all together as one unit.

2) Can SM drop pods "really" come down in the first turn? I thought it was all a 2nd turn thing (reserves).

3) If a walker (dreadnaught) charges something that can't damge it (firewarriors), does the dreadnaught just maul everything with no consequences?

Thanks for your time.

1) Sorry, no clue what this means. Maybe it is one of those new battle missions?

2) Drop Pod Assault rule states that half the pods in an army (rounded up) drop at the very start of that player's first turn.

3) Yup. Unless you somehow roll ones and it is a drawn combat.

EpicSausage wrote:1) We all placed our HQs around the middle marker, does the Chaplian get to deploy in the middle "with" the extra retinue squad-thing it comes with? As it says they are all together as one unit.

Space Marine Chaplains don't have retinues, so I'm not sure what unit you're referring to.

As a general situation, though, the rules tell you to deploy a HQ unit. So if the IC you're deploying has a retinue, they would be deployed as one unit. You wouldn't be able to deploy a HQ with a squad that isn't a retinue, though.

Fearspect wrote:1) Sorry, no clue what this means. Maybe it is one of those new battle missions?

Broken Alliance is the 3-way battle scenario in the rulebook. Page 272.

Remember though that only a few units have a 'true' retinue. A Canoness or Inquisitor (OM or OH) are examples of one, anything in C:SM can 'unlock' a squad that you often join the IC to, but it is not a true retinue.

insaniak wrote:
Broken Alliance is the 3-way battle scenario in the rulebook. Page 272.

Which rulebook has 272 pages?

Both the BRB and the Battle Missions book have over 272 pages.

For the Chaplain, if it were a Black Templar's Chaplain, they may take Cenobyte Servitors which, although they are models and make their own attacks, are wargear and as such attached to the Chaplain. This is the only situation where a Chaplain would have a 'retinue'. It should be noted, retinue is not the proper term to describe Cenobyte servitors,

DarknessEternal wrote:

insaniak wrote:
Broken Alliance is the 3-way battle scenario in the rulebook. Page 272.

Which rulebook has 272 pages?

The large A4 one.

DarknessEternal wrote:

insaniak wrote:
Broken Alliance is the 3-way battle scenario in the rulebook. Page 272.

Which rulebook has 272 pages?

The normal 5th Edition Rulebook.

The Black Reach rulebook is missing the second half of the normal book.

EpicSausage wrote:3) If a walker (dreadnaught) charges something that can't damge it (firewarriors), does the dreadnaught just maul everything with no consequences?

Dread assaults and kills two FWs who aren't packing EMPs. They strike back, but do no damage. They lost combat by two wounds and roll morale -2. They make it. Combat continues.

Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

Until the FWs or 'gaunts or whatever fail morale, the dread will continue to trash them. Once they fail morale, then the dread can attempt a Sweeping Advance. So, *yes* there are consequences, but none dire for the dread. These consequences are the follow through, with morale and such.

Check this:
An Ironclad Dread assaults marines. They try grenade attacks, which only resolve against front armor. The Ironclad's being AV13. Krak grenades won't crack that. So, the dread stomps two SM, they fail morale and take two armor saves as per No Retreat!

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

Brother - no, they roll for morale, if they pass nothing further happems, If they fail then SA check - if they get away they fall back, if they fail THEN NR! kicks in

Nos is correct, you have to give the SM a chance to run away, important part of any SM's day!

Unless they are Deathwing Terminators which are Fearless...

Or Chaos cult marines, who are also fearless.

However whe nyou talk about "marines" in general it is probably safe to assume the person means 'nilla, ATSKNF, marines.