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Made in us
Flower Picking Eldar Youth




I just started playing war hammer 40k and before i bought my pieces i thought i would come up with a
half way decent army list for eldar heres what i am thinking so far

Farseer - Doom, Guide, Shining Spear
Autarch - Power Weapon, Lasblaster, and Mand Blaster

Troops:
10 Howling Banshees
1 Banshee exarch with mirrorblades

10 Dire Avengers
1 Dire Avenger exarch with bladestorm and then power weapon and shimmer shield

6 Fire Dragons

6 Fire Dragons

10 Guardians
Scatter Laser platform

2 Vypers with scatter laser

3 Guardian jetbikes

2 Wave Serpents


The plan is to have the fire dragons ride in the falcons and the banshees and avengers to ride in the serpents
and the autarch will run with the banshees or avengers depending and the bikes will be quick support. As i said i am a noob at this and borrowing from
other lists and i am not really sure what to do with the farseer or if this strategy will work at all? please help
   
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Wicked Warp Spider




A cave, deep in the Misty Mountains

What falcons?
What are the serpents armed with?

The lasblaster on the Autarch is usless. Stickto your pistol or get a fusion gun.

Good farseer set up as a secondary HQ. Riding with the DA I presume?

I personally prefer a diresword and pistol for my Da, or two catapults. The shimmershiled is only useful in combat, which is not where you're heading.

Do your dragons have an exarch, if so what powers and weapon?
I think you should scrap a squad and the jetbikes for a fire prism. Good anti tank and anti-infantry.

You could also get some long range anti tank like missile launchers or bright lances, either on your guardians, vypers or wave serpents.

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Made in us
Flower Picking Eldar Youth




sorry 2 falcons armed with pulse lasers and star cannons to carry dragons
ok il scrap the lasblaster just wanted to use up that extra point
and ok wasnt sure what to do with the seer and ok for the DA equips that sounds good
my dragons do not have an exarch
and ya the jetbikes are dumb but what squad shud i swap? and im thinking more long range with bright lance and EMLs since i have 2 falcons
also was wondering if i shud give my seer stones or not?


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ok so

Farseer - Doom, Guide, Shining Spear
Autarch - Power weapon, and Mand Blaster

Troops:

10 Howling Banshees
1 Banshee Exarch - Mirrorblades

10 Dire Avengers
1 Dire Avenger Exarch - Bladestorm, Dire Sword, Pistol

6 Fire Dragons

6 Fire Dragons

10 Guardians
Scatter Laser Platform

2 Vypers - Scatterlaser

2 Falcons - Pulse Laser, Star Cannon

2 Wave Serpents - Star Engines, and Shurican Cannons

left over is 26 points i think

So the fire dragons will ride in the falcons and the autarch will run with the banshees in a serpent and the farseer and DA will run in the other serpent
the vypers will run support with the guardians

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Hamburg

Looks rather newbish.

As a core, I'd consider a Doomseer, two squads of 10 DA in Serpents, two squads of 5 (or 6) FD's in Serpents, and two Fire Prisms.

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Made in us
Flower Picking Eldar Youth





Ya its noobish because ive never played a game of 40k lmao

and hmm kk that is a good idea as well, any other suggestions?
all help is greatly appreciated
this is only for friendly games against friends with tyranid, space marines, and another eldar


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ok so semi revised edition

HQ:
1 Farseer - Doom, Guide, Spirit Stone, Rune of Warding, SSpear 138
1 Autarch - Power Weapon, Mand Blaster 90

Elites:
5 Fire Dragons 80

5 Fire Dragons 80

10 Howling Banshees 160
1 Banshee Exarch - Mirrorblades 38

Troops:
10 Dire Avengers 120
1 Avenger Exarch Bladestorm, Dire Sword and Shurican Pistol 49

10 Guardians with a Scatterlaser Platform operated by 2 of the guards 95

Fast Attack:
3 Vypers - Scatterlaser 180

Heavy Support:
2 Falcons - Pulse Laser, and EML 270

2 Wave Serpents - Scatter Laser 230

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Hamburg

Okay, I'd replace the Falcons by Serpents; all Serpents hould have stones and scatter lasers/shuricannons.
The Farseer just needs doom and both runes.
Give the DA Exarch blade storm and dual catapult, nothing else.

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Made in us
Flower Picking Eldar Youth




OK i made some more small changes - thanks for all the help
HQ:
1 Farseer - Doom, Guide, Spirit Stone, Rune of Warding, SSpear 138
1 Autarch -Fusion Gun, 80

Elites:
6 Fire Dragons 96

6 Fire Dragons 96

10 Howling Banshees 160
1 Banshee Exarch - Mirrorblades 38

Troops:
10 Dire Avengers 120
1 Avenger Exarch Bladestorm, Dual Shurican Cannons 44

3 Guardian Jetbikes 66

Fast Attack:
2 Vypers - Scatterlaser 120

Heavy Support:
2 Wave Serpents - Scatter Laser, Shurican Cannons, SStones 270
2 Wave Serpents - Scatter Laser, Shurican Cannons, SStones 270
   
Made in us
Pauper with Promise





Lord Rogukiel has some decent adivice, the rest I would ignore unless you wanna be trapped inside a box and have an army that looks the exact same as everyone elses eldar. I will attempt to give some advice once I get off work.
   
Made in us
Flower Picking Eldar Youth




o_0 ok thanks looking forward to more input
   
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Hamburg

Looks still a bit weird.
Serpents are dedicated transports, not heavy support.
Three GJB's will achieve nothing whatsoever.

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Made in us
Flower Picking Eldar Youth




Well here are some reworked lists really not sure if for the better or worse

HQ:
1 Far seer - Doom, Guide, Spirit Stone, Rune of Warding, 135
1 Autarch – Power Weapon 80

Elites:
8 Fire Dragons 128
Wave Serpent – Scatter Laser, Shurican Cannons, Spirit Stones 135

9 Howling Banshees 144
1 Banshee Exarch - Mirror blades 38
Wave Serpent – Scatter Laser, Shurican Cannons, Spirit Stones 135

Troops:
9 Dire Avengers 108
1 Avenger Exarch Blade storm, Dual Shurican Catapults 44
Wave Serpent - EML, Shurican Cannons, Spirit Stones 140

9 Dire Avengers 108
1 Avenger Exarch Blade storm, Dual Shurican Catapults 44
Wave Serpent - EML, Shurican Cannons, Spirit Stones 140

Fast Attack:
2 Vypers - Scatter laser 120

Heavy Support: Nothing D:

Total is 1499 points

Alternatively

HQ:
1 Far seer - Doom, Guide, Spirit Stone, Rune of Warding SSpear, 135

Elites:
6 Fire Dragons 96
Wave Serpent – Scatter Laser, Spirit Stones 135

9 Howling Banshees 144
1 Banshee Exarch - Mirror blades 38
Wave Serpent – Scatter Laser, Spirit Stones 135

Troops:
9 Dire Avengers 108
1 Avenger Exarch Blade storm, Dual Shurican Catapults 44
Wave Serpent - EML, Shurican Cannons, Spirit Stones 140

9 Dire Avengers 108
1 Avenger Exarch Blade storm, Dual Shurican Catapults 44
Wave Serpent - EML, Shurican Cannons, Spirit Stones 140
Fast Attack:
Nothing D:

Heavy Support:
2 Fire Prisms – Spirit Stones 250
Total is 1500 points

If possible id like to take my army in a different direction then every other elder so that not every single player i face has a counter prepared >.> however there is a reason so many people make lists like that. so ya

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Hamburg

Well, the 2nd list looks not bad.
What is the Farseer guiding?
I'd drop those additional underslung weapons at the Serpents.
Better keep them moving 12'' and fire their main turret weapon.
Not sure if you need Banshees. They'll die easily.
I'd prefer another unit of Fire Dragons any day.

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Made in us
Flower Picking Eldar Youth




what would i do with the extra points from the weapons and trade of banshees to dragons? and the seer is with the DA
   
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Hamburg

Well, I'd take 2x 6 Fire Dragons in Serpents with stones and shuricannons.
Possibly you can squeeze in two Vypers.

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Charging Dragon Prince




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I don't see enough transport in that last list suggestion. You really really want Avengers and Dragons to be mobile for the 'drop-and-pop' way of playing them. If I were you I would take scatterlasers or missiles instead of starcannons too. I just don't think starcannons are very good for how expensive they are.

If you can squeeze in 15 points here or there, Spirit Stones for your farseer are a really worth-it upgrade. It's like having a second Doomseer and a Guideseer for far less points. Bargain price psyker power.

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Flower Picking Eldar Youth




well see im playing with friends first and they are an eldar with seer council , 2 ork and a space marines so thats why i was going with scatterlasers on vypers and 2 of the serpents

and dont dragons die just as fast as banshees?

and there are transports in my list? a wave serpent for each group and no star cannons that i can see? *oh look at the new list not the original one thanks


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ok well now i got this
HQ:
1 Far seer - Doom, Fortune, Spirit Stone, Rune of Warding SSpear, 145

Elites:
6 Fire Dragons 96
Wave Serpent – Scatter Laser, Spirit Stones 135

9 Howling Banshees 144
1 Banshee Exarch - Mirror blades 38
Wave Serpent – Scatter Laser, Spirit Stones 135

Troops:
9 Dire Avengers 108
1 Avenger Exarch Blade storm, Dual Shurican Catapults 44
Wave Serpent - EML, Spirit Stones 130

9 Dire Avengers 108
1 Avenger Exarch Blade storm, Dual Shurican Catapults 44
Wave Serpent - EML, Spirit Stones 130
Fast Attack:
Nothing D:

Heavy Support:
2 Fire Prisms – 230
Total is 1470 points

now i have some points to burn after removing unnecessary stones and cannons also changed guide to fortune to protect banshees and the serpent. I was also thinking about taking out the heavy support in favor of a third scoring unit or perhaps another fire dragon crew and adding some fast support to be more aggressive. again help is very much appreciated.

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