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Whats the best way to go about doing this?

I should start off by saying I'm more or less brand new to 40k, I haven't played any games on tabletop yet, but I've got maybe 10 vassal40k games under my belt.

I started off with nids, figured it was a good choice since the new codex was released literally the month before I started with the hobby.

Anyways last night was the first time I came across a squad of assault terminators with lightning claws, some with thunder hammers and storm shields. Up until then, I was actually winning ! most of my games, this was my worst defeat yet.

It was a 1500 point game, but I felt like I didn't bring anything that could really do some damage to them. I stupidly assaulted them with a brood of genestealers + a broodlord, without really knowing what they were capable of, and they got turned into mincemeat, it was pretty brutal.

Later on they assaulted some of my zoans, and against 14 wounds I rolled 13 invulnerable saves, so it was my one small victory of the night, haha.

Anyways, for next time, I think I'm gonna bring a swarm lord in my list. I'll do my best to shoot the termies to death with a squad of warriors with deathspitters, then get in and assault them with the swarmlord + retinue. His boneswords give 4+ invul save, cause instant death, and make them reroll those nasty +2 invulnerable saves. Also, I can use 2 psychic powers on my way in, softening them up quite a bit.

Of course, that only works if I get the charge, and if I'm even in position to get the charge off in the first place, more likely than not I'll just get shot the heck up trying to get there.

So I dunno... what do you guys think? Sorry for the long post...



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Maybe sacrificing a huge unit of hormagaunts to take them out, hoping sheer numbers get the job done?

Terminators don't get +2 invulnerable saves. Storm shields give you +3 invulnerables but the thunder hammers make them much slower.

Yeah, lightning claws only means they only have a 5+ invulnerable from the terminator armor.

OT: Wanna play a vassal match?

terminators get a 5/6 invulnerable, 2+ standard save

ive found a brutal hail of gaunt fire can get the job done, if you take a base squad of devourer gaunts and then screen them with tervigon babies so they cannot be assaulted they put out plenty of shots to make them fail some 2+'s

I like to use furious charge/poison termigants on terminators, as they always strike first, and the terminators have trouble killing so many. (especially TH/SS).

Thanks for the quick replies guys!

And I think I got hosed last night with the invulnerable thing, he was definitely rolling 2's for that =(

So... No Vassal Match?

Nah not right now sorry

Alright, pm me if you ever want to.