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Made in gb
Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles





Kettering, UK

Well, I got a loads of DE cheap on Ebay.

I've read the Codex and Thor665s DE tactica Article (Brilliant btw )So I thought I'd build a list.

C&C obviously welcome and appreciated!

Basically going for Fast hard raider spam, with RJB tank hunters.

1 Dracon:
Close Combat Weapon; Poison Blades; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drug Dispenser; Gruesome Talisman; Terrorfex; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades; Animus Vitae; Reaver Jetbike 139

3x Reaver Jetbike Squad:
Blaster x2; Splinter Rifle x1 95

3x Reaver Jetbike Squad:
Blaster x2; Splinter Rifle x1 95

3x Reaver Jetbike Squad:
Shredder x2; Splinter Rifle x1 105


7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Disintegrator; Horrorfex 136

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Disintegrator; Horrorfex 136

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 131

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 131

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 131

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 131

1x Ravager:
Dark Lance x2; Disintegrator x1; Horrorfex; Nightshields 135

1x Ravager:
Dark Lance x2; Disintegrator x1; Horrorfex; Nightshields 135


1500pts

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/05/11 00:32:25


Pleasure is Everything. Pain is Nothing.

My Chaos Scorcerer > Phalius Libertain  
   
Made in us
Graham McNeil




Florida

I'd say just use an agoniser on the dracon, as it hits on 4+ and ignores armor. also why are you giving the dracon a splinter rifle? gruesome talismans are useless in 5th, terrorfex on a dracon also not a great idea (the vehicle varient is better) haywire grenades are unneeded in my opinion.

about your raider squads, just keep them at 5 as you should only want them for the lance and/or blaster, and keep the dark lance on the raiders.

reaver jetbikes are fine, though i never use shredders. Maybe playtest and see how it goes?

heavy support is fine, tho my preference is either all lance or all dissie. ur choice really.


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also, grats for getting a DE army cheap on ebay! it means you'll be prepared for when late summer comes along with new codex, since you wont have to buy new models (though they probably look smexy)

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/05/11 01:10:17


Insanityphr33k:hm. k. well uh do me a favor and like tell me if anythings missing?
SPARTAN3ZETA1:is their any heavy gak in their?
Insanityphr33k:the heavy support? lol
SPARTAN3ZETA1:lmao you know what i mean
Insanityphr33k:lol. ....uh im dark eldar wtf is heavy?
SPARTAN3ZETA1:anything that can take a beating
Insanityphr33k:... again im dark eldar 
   
Made in gb
Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles





Kettering, UK

Thanks for the tips. I'll make some amendments.

The splinter rifle is on the RJB (copy paste edit from army builder)

Yeah that's the plan, thought I'd get the bulk now and just get the new HQ and hopefully wych models i want when the drop!

Pleasure is Everything. Pain is Nothing.

My Chaos Scorcerer > Phalius Libertain  
   
Made in us
Graham McNeil




Florida

very nice. btw i meant to ask but what is your plan for this army? and also which RJB squad is with the lord? and also im assuming your using the lord as an MC hunter? in which case you might want to use a raider with 5 incubi and the lord instead of the RJB squad

Insanityphr33k:hm. k. well uh do me a favor and like tell me if anythings missing?
SPARTAN3ZETA1:is their any heavy gak in their?
Insanityphr33k:the heavy support? lol
SPARTAN3ZETA1:lmao you know what i mean
Insanityphr33k:lol. ....uh im dark eldar wtf is heavy?
SPARTAN3ZETA1:anything that can take a beating
Insanityphr33k:... again im dark eldar 
   
Made in us
Member of the Malleus




Pasadena, California

From my experience blasters and lances dont mix, either splinter cannon and blasters for moving and shooting or lances at max range and not move.

Also shredders are kind of meh, blast weapons can drift back and hurt you or nothing, I've found blasters to be better then shredders hands down.


 
   
Made in us
Executing Exarch






Odenton, MD

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:Well, I got a loads of DE cheap on Ebay.


Congrats!, Welcome to the Few, the Proud, and the twisted!







1 Dracon:
Close Combat Weapon; Poison Blades; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drug Dispenser; Gruesome Talisman; Terrorfex; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades; Animus Vitae; Reaver Jetbike 139


Are you playing 4th ed? The tailisman does nothing in 5th since there is no bonus for outnumbering. (not to mention DE are small elite units and it wasn't useful in 4th.)

After that you need a power weapon on this guy, poison blades are just a poor mans agoniser.

Next on the chopping block is the haywire grenades, animus, and the terrorfex. (and the jetbike if you take my advice later)

Now what to add to him? SHADOWFIELD!! and and agoniser / splinter pistol, or punisher / tormentor helm.


3x Reaver Jetbike Squad:
Blaster x2; Splinter Rifle x1 95

3x Reaver Jetbike Squad:
Blaster x2; Splinter Rifle x1 95

3x Reaver Jetbike Squad:
Shredder x2; Splinter Rifle x1 105


While not a bad selection in games around 1750, at 1500 I wouldn't run them. I feel you really should max out all other FoC before going for the bikes. Also it looks like all of your troop selections are going to be relatively stationary. If that is the case with or without turbo boost these bikes are going to die on turn 2.

If for some reason you really want them, you are going to have to make some changes to the rest of the list.





7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Disintegrator; Horrorfex 136

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Disintegrator; Horrorfex 136

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 131

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 131

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 131

7x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 131


My personal choice of troops, the only thing you need to do is drop the 2 extra warriors. If someone targets them 2 more wounds will do nothing for you. It just waste points. Also drop the dis on the raider and take a DL, It's more tactically advantageous to have specilzed units as opposed to units that are average on all accounts.


1x Ravager:
Dark Lance x2; Disintegrator x1; Horrorfex; Nightshields 135

1x Ravager:
Dark Lance x2; Disintegrator x1; Horrorfex; Nightshields 135


Add one more, change them all to 3 x Dis, and call it a day. You should never be close enough to use horrorex, and never far way enough to use nightshields (Missile launchers, lascannons, etc are all 48", your range is 36")






Now, this is what I run at 1500pt:

1500 Pts - Dark Eldar Roster

1 Dracon @ 113 pts ((CE, pg. 6); Unit Type: Infantry; Fleet; Independent Character; Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Combat Drug Dispenser; Shadow Field; Trophy Rack; Plasma Grenades)

5 Wyches @ 182 pts ((CE, pg. 9); Unit Type: Infantry; Close Combat Weapon; Fleet; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs; Dodge; Plasma Grenades)
. . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
. . 1 Raider ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Dark Lance x1; Horrorfex)

5 Wyches @ 182 pts ((CE, pg. 9); Unit Type: Infantry; Close Combat Weapon; Fleet; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Blaster x2; Combat Drugs; Dodge; Plasma Grenades)
. . 1 Succubus (Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
. . 1 Raider ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Dark Lance x1; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 110 pts ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Infantry; Fleet; Splinter Rifle x4; Dark Lance)
. . 1 Raider ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Dark Lance x1; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 110 pts ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Infantry; Fleet; Splinter Rifle x4; Dark Lance)
. . 1 Raider ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Dark Lance x1; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 110 pts ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Infantry; Fleet; Splinter Rifle x4; Dark Lance)
. . 1 Raider ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Dark Lance x1; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 110 pts ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Infantry; Fleet; Splinter Rifle x4; Dark Lance)
. . 1 Raider ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Dark Lance x1; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 110 pts ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Infantry; Fleet; Splinter Rifle x4; Dark Lance)
. . 1 Raider ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Dark Lance x1; Horrorfex)

5 Raider Squad @ 110 pts ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Infantry; Fleet; Splinter Rifle x4; Dark Lance)
. . 1 Raider ((CE, pg. 10); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Dark Lance x1; Horrorfex)

1 Ravager @ 120 pts ((CE, pg. 12); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Disintegrator x3)

1 Ravager @ 120 pts ((CE, pg. 12); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Disintegrator x3)

1 Ravager @ 120 pts ((CE, pg. 12); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Open-topped); Disintegrator x3)

Total Roster Cost: 1497


Is very effective at what it does, sit and shoot until someone gets close, jump them with the wyches and dracon to tie them up, then fly 24" way and open fire for the rest of the game.




Now if you wanted to keep the bike theme going instead of a more stationary list, you need to drop the dracon for 3 heamons on bikes with scissor hands and destructor. Change all of the troops to splinter cannons, blaster, horrorfex boats, and add a ravager. With 3 heamons riding with a unit of three bikes the unit toughness becomes 5, and the heamons can split off and fry things with their templates when needed. IMO not as effective in 1500 pts as the standard Kabal list, but its fun.


Well I hope that helps, good luck
   
Made in gb
Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles





Kettering, UK

This seems like a fun list that has possibilities?

The dark lance ravager is to go in early strike with the bikes and Dracon.



1 Dracon:
Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Combat Drug Dispenser; Crucible of Malediction ; Shadow Field; Trophy Rack; Plasma Grenades 133

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Disintegrator; Horrorfex 120

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3x Haemonculi:
Scissorhand; Destructor; Combat Drug Dispenser; Plasma Grenades; Reaver Jetbike 321

3x Reaver Jetbike Squad:
Blaster x2; 95
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5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1x Ravager:
Disintegrator x3; 120

1x Ravager:
Disintegrator x3; 120

1x Ravager:
Dark Lance x3, Horrorfex; Nightshields 130

1499pts


Pleasure is Everything. Pain is Nothing.

My Chaos Scorcerer > Phalius Libertain  
   
Made in us
Executing Exarch






Odenton, MD

Looks pretty good, I would drop the combat drugs, and plasma from the heamons since they should be dancing around units flaming them, and the poison should be enough in what little combat they do get into. (not to mention you don't want to crash if you assault into cover)

Also drop the nightshield and horrofex on the ravager.

This should free up enough points for another raider squad! There is nothing like having max troops for C&C missions, plus the extra 2 DL will really help clean up Mech and MEQ.
   
Made in gb
Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles





Kettering, UK

Ok this seems good to me.

Just need to find another Ravager for cheap and model some heamons onto my bikes!


1 Dracon:
Agoniser; Splinter Pistol; Combat Drug Dispenser; Crucible of Malediction ; Shadow Field; Trophy Rack; Plasma Grenades 133

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Darklance; Horrorfex 115

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3x Haemonculi:
Scissorhand; Destructor; Reaver Jetbike 240

3x Reaver Jetbike Squad:
Blaster x2; 95
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115

5x Raider Squad:
Blaster + Dark Lance, Dark Lance; Horrorfex 115


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1x Ravager:
Disintegrator x3; 120

1x Ravager:
Disintegrator x3; 120

1x Ravager:
Dark Lance x3, 105

1503pts


Pleasure is Everything. Pain is Nothing.

My Chaos Scorcerer > Phalius Libertain  
   
Made in us
Executing Exarch






Odenton, MD

Talk to mrwhoop


He's selling / trading his DE at a very reasonable price. I know he has 3 ravagers left since I didn't snag them
   
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles





Kettering, UK

pm'd him thanks man.

Pleasure is Everything. Pain is Nothing.

My Chaos Scorcerer > Phalius Libertain  
   
Made in us
Executing Exarch






Odenton, MD

D'oh!


My bad the user with the DE stuff is Corbett

   
Made in gb
Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles





Kettering, UK

Thanks man i was going to pm you as Whoops said it wasn't him!

Pleasure is Everything. Pain is Nothing.

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