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I can't decide between these 2 lists and would like to hear everyone's opinion on it. The main difference is in the deffkoptas

1st List

HQ
225-ghazghull
85-big mek w/ kustom force field

Troops
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
490-7x nob bikers all w/cybork
---Painboy
---Power klaw
---power klaw w/waaagh banner
---power klaw w/boss pole
---big choppa
---big choppa w/bosspole
---choppa

Fast attack
205-4x deffkoptas-4x TL rokkits, 1x buzz saw
205-4x deffkoptas-4x TL rokkits, 1x buzz saw

Heavy Support
66-3x kannons-2x ammo runts
66-3x kannons-2x ammo runts
66-3x kannons-2x ammo runts

2483-- 17 points left over


2nd List

HQ
225-ghazghull
85-big mek w/ kustom force field

Troops
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
215-30x boyz-nob w/power klaw
485-7x nob bikers all w/cybork
---Painboy
---Power klaw
---power klaw w/waaagh banner
---power klaw w/boss pole
---big choppa
---choppa w/bosspole
---choppa

Fast Attack
225-5x deffkoptas-5x TL rokkits
225-5x deffkoptas-5x TL rokkits

Heavy support
60-3x kannons
60-3x kannons
60-3x kannons

2500 right on the nose


Any ideas, thoughts, comments, or criticisms? Is it God-awful? Is it freakin' amazing?

Thanks for looking and for any insight you may provide to me.

Uhmmm what's the difference besdies kopter numbers and ammo runts?

Not a bad start to a foot list but it goes down hill after a bit.

Boyz could do with a bosspole because on foot will take more wounds.

Nob bikers are out of place as will race ahead and end up being a easy target.

'Kopters are ok but need buzzsaws. Also you shouldn't take in units as kill 2 and you're taking morale, which you could fail.

Kannonz don't add a huge amount of anti tank tbh.

I would add killa kanz to use as a kan wall and get cover saves, 4+ cover is better than 5 so your boyz will last longer. Then add lootas for long range fire support and anti tank, cut down the kopters to one per fast attack slot but add buzzsaws to them increasing anti tank nastyness.

I would add killa kanz to use as a kan wall and get cover saves, 4+ cover is better than 5 so your boyz will last longer. Then add lootas for long range fire support and anti tank, cut down the kopters to one per fast attack slot but add buzzsaws to them increasing anti tank nastyness.

I agree with this statement...