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I'll get straight to point. When firing a Heavy 3 Blast weapon, do you:

1) Place template, roll for scatter, determine number of models hit then roll 3 dice per model.

2) Place template, roll for scatter, determine number of models hit, then repeat for 2 other templates.

3) Place template, roll for scatter, roll scatter dice for second template, place it touching first, repeat for third.

I'm pretty sure option 3 is wrong, but was told to do it this way once. I've searched and searched for correct resolution, but can't find any firm answer, so if you good people could show me the correct place to look, I'll be grateful.

2), as it is not a multiple barrage.

nosferatu1001 wrote:2), as it is not a multiple barrage.

But how do you know? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I just can't see ruling anywhere. I just want to know what I'm not reading for the sake of sanity.

UltraPrime wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:2), as it is not a multiple barrage.

But how do you know? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I just can't see ruling anywhere. I just want to know what I'm not reading for the sake of sanity.

Pg 30 of the rulebook under 'multiple blasts'.

Page 30 tells you very clearly what to do.

Gwar! wrote:Page 30 tells you very clearly what to do.

I've re-written this several times so as to not come out sounding like I just want an argument, but failed, so forgive me.

The example given was several individuals firing several blast weapons. I don't see any examples showing a single weapon firing. Where does it state 'Blast 3' is firing 3 templates, rather than 3 dice per hit?

It doesn't matter. It states "unit." So the rules follow the second example.

The only time you use the third example is when you have a mulitple barrage weapon. Since you just said "heavy 3 blast" your unit is would have to roll three different scatter shots.

It obviously isn't the first one because you are firing it three times. Under no circumstances would you be rolling three wounds per hit. It would be like rolling one to hit with an assault cannon and if you hit, you roll four wounds. Doesn't work like that. Each shot is rolled differently.

well, it's a weapon firing 3 shots. so 3 different blasts just seems logical. just like 3 models firing 1 blast weapon have 3 different blasts.

my 2cents anyway.

UltraPrime wrote:

Gwar! wrote:Page 30 tells you very clearly what to do.

I've re-written this several times so as to not come out sounding like I just want an argument, but failed, so forgive me.

The example given was several individuals firing several blast weapons. I don't see any examples showing a single weapon firing. Where does it state 'Blast 3' is firing 3 templates, rather than 3 dice per hit?

This is the same issue as the barrage weapon rules not covering what happens when a single weapon fires more than one blast. However the net result is that the rules present us with one way to handle a situation where a unit is firing multiple blast weapons and no viable alternative.

So while not completely 'RAW' we as players really don't have much of an option here...99.9% of players are going to follow the rules written for a unit firing multiple blast weapons because there isn't a more convincing viable alternative.

Krilau wrote:well, it's a weapon firing 3 shots. so 3 different blasts just seems logical. just like 3 models firing 1 blast weapon have 3 different blasts.

my 2cents anyway.

I agree this is most logical outcome. I'm just over-analysing, I think. I'll go with this interpretation. Thanks all!

"Some weapons such as... fire multiple shots" (From page 27, under the subheading type)

From Multiple Blasts (page 30):
"A unit firing firing more than one blast weapon (or 1 blast weapon with multiple shots)... resolve each shot... blah blah"

Barrage weapons are a subtype, such as lance, melta, etc. and will have it noted in its Type if it is a barrage.

So, as your example is written, case 2.

Shrike325 wrote:"Some weapons such as... fire multiple shots" (From page 27, under the subheading type)

Thats what I was after! Thanks, I knew I was overlooking something somewhere.

Thanks. I was stumped on this one too. The new thunderfire cannons are tricky!