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HQ
Ghazkull

Big Mek
With KFF

Troops
30 'ard Boyz with PK Nob

26 Gretchin with Runtherders

30x3 Boyz with PK Nob

7 Nobs with PK and 'eavy armor
Painboy
Trukk with RR, grot riggers, RPJ

Heavy
3 Killa Kans with grotzookas.

I plan on running Gahzkull wit the nobs and the Bigmek in the Trukk. '

Gretchins as meatshields for the boys.

Just wanting to get some opinons.

OK. From the top.

Ghazghkull is good.

Big Mek, good.

'ard Boyz, very expensive, I say they're not worth it.

19 Gretchin
1 Runtherd
Anything else is overkill

Make sure your nobz have bosspoles

Make your Nob mob complex or don't bother with it.

You have way too many points in a 50pt trukk. Get a wagon.

3 Kans and 26 Grots will not screen 120 boyz. Your trukk will run ahead of everything, blow up and die.

Does each nob in the mob need a boss pole or just one? And what is your take on whaaag banners? Do you think this list is competitive? I am planning on going to BOLSCON with Orks. This is a new variation I am trying. Straight horde lots of models chew up their ammo march across and BAM!

Your HQs are both sound; but consider if your mek is caught in c.c it has zero defence or any way to survive.

Ard boyz cost too much and don't survive that much longer than normal boyz.

Grots are ok for getting objectives but honestly you have enough troops.

You lack anti tank so add lootas or triple rokkits on the boyz squads; oh add bosspoles too so when you take damage they won't run off in time.

Drop the trukk and the nobz. It's a sole target and will be wrecked easily and the nobz will get hammered.

Get another 2 x 3 killa kanz to make a kan wall and you'll get 4+ cover for the boyz thanks to the kanz and then 4+ cover to the kanz from the KFF.

I say once the Big Mek is in CC, he's done his job. He doesn't need anymore gubbins.

Drop the 'ard Boyz, get two more squads of Kans with Rokkits. You can keep the gretchin if you want, useful for backfield objectives.

All your boy mobs need bosspoles and one in the nob mob too.

Make the nobs complex and with any points you have left, add lootas.

Wound allocation on the Nobz!
WAAAGH! banners are incredibly amazing.
You need a BW for your nobz and add Ghazghkull into that group.
Add bosspoles in every group.
Drop the 'ardboyz. for 2 extra points per, you can have a whole other squad of Boyz wich is much better.

Gretchin as a meatshield can work occasionally, but if you decide to run your boyz instead of shooting (and I always do) your gretchin can slow your boyz down and you'll end up not being able to assault. I'd use your gretchin for capturing backfield objectives.

Add a couple of rokkits (Deffkoptas work well) or lootas for Anti Tank.*

*I don't know how well grotzookas count for AT so if they're good enough, this part isn't necessary.

ok I'll work on a new list and have it up soon.


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Ok here we go

HQ
Ghazkull

Big Mek
With KFF

Troops
15 gretchin w runtherder

4x30 Boyz with PK Nob and BP

Nobz Mob
Painboy 'Eavy Armour

Nobz 'Eavy Armour; Big Choppa; Twin Linked Shoota
Nobz'Eavy Armour; Big Choppa
Nobz 'Eavy Armour; Shoota/Rokkit Kombi-weapon
Nobz 'Eavy Armour; Bosspole; Power Klaw
Nobz 'Eavy Armour; Waaagh! Banner; Power Klaw
Nobz 'Eavy Armour; Big Choppa; Shoota/Skorcha Kombi-weapon
Battlewagon Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job



Heavy

2x 3 KK w/ grotzookas

Much better.

Try to stay away from Kombi-Rokkits, Kombi-Skorchas are much better, BS2 will ruin your day.

Your Battlewagon should be moving to the fight as fast as you can so I would kit it out like this:

Battlewagon 145pts
w/ Deff Rolla
w/ RPJ
w/ Grot Riggers
w/ Boarding Plank
w/ Armor Plates
w/ 2 Big Shootas

For this list, I'd go with 3x30 Boyz and 3x3 Rokkit Kans. You'll need the anti-mech and it'll be easier to keep everything within the 4+ save range.

Other than that, looks good!

I still dont like the fact you got a battlewagon/trukk/whatever charging up front all by itself and the rest of your boyz walking. Orks work best if either it's all mech' or it's all footslogging.

General_Chaos wrote:I still dont like the fact you got a battlewagon/trukk/whatever charging up front all by itself and the rest of your boyz walking. Orks work best if either it's all mech' or it's all footslogging.

I definitely agree. They will draw fire away from the boyz, though. And once 120 boyz get in assault range, it's all over but the muggin'.

General_Chaos wrote:I still dont like the fact you got a battlewagon/trukk/whatever charging up front all by itself and the rest of your boyz walking. Orks work best if either it's all mech' or it's all footslogging.

I totally agree with this statement. The battlewagon will be a easy target and more than likely the mek won't be in there give the kanz cover.

Drop the wagon and the nobz get more kanz for your mobs to hide behind and get lootas, because you have no anti tank!