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Im sure this will be cleared up pretty fast, but im in the middle of reading the HH collection (at the end of Galaxy In Flames ATM) and I have some queries about the "Traitor legions" colors. Firstly who are the white marines with green trim on the Galaxy In Flames Cover? The symbol looks like death guard, but the books state that death guard have no paint on their armour. Secondly who are the grey marines on the cover of Horus Rising? (I think their the world bearers but im not sure) Finally what actually is the paint scheme for the sons of Horus? I think its sort of metallic green but I cant find any pictures of them anywhere.

Galaxy in flames: Death Guard. Should be light grey with green trim if they would follow the example of index astartes.
Horus rising : Luna wolves. XIII legion and the eye of terra/horus should hint on them.

The luna wolves switched to a weird shade of green ( IIRC nothing metallic ) after beeing renamed to sons of horus.
Were originally white.

Sons of Horus were "Sea Green". Kinda a bluish green. Luna Wolves went from White, to Sea Green to Black. It's a metaphor.

Thanks for the info, but i still don't get why the lunar wolves are grey on the cover of Horus Rising rather than pearl white, weren't the world bearers meant to be stone grey?

vodo40k wrote:Thanks for the info, but i still don't get why the lunar wolves are grey on the cover of Horus Rising rather than pearl white, weren't the world bearers meant to be stone grey?

because when your in war somtimes your armour gets a bit dirty when explosions are going off all around you, shells flying through the air, cities burning and invisible dudes that are trying to blow your head off.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Black_Legion

Has a pic of heresy-era Sons of Whorus

Dark Angels: Black
BLood Angels: Blood Red
World Eaters: White armour with blue Shoulder pads and Backpack
Ultramarines: Blue and gold as
Imperial Fists: Yellow
Raven Guard: Black/White
Emperor's Children: Purple with gold banding
Word Bearers: Steel grey/green with text inscribed.
Death Guard: White/grey armour with drab green banding


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Dark Angels: Black
BLood Angels: Blood Red same as in 40 k
World Eaters: White armour with blue Shoulder pads and Backpack
Ultramarines: Blue and gold armour same as in 40k
Imperial Fists: Yellow same as in 40k
Raven Guard: Black/White same as in 40k
Emperor's Children: Purple with gold banding
Word Bearers: Steel grey/green with text inscribed.
Death Guard: White/grey armour with drab green banding
Night Lords: Dark Blue armour with lightning patterns. Bat symbols
Iron Warriors: Dark green armour with bronze banding
Salamanders: Green and gold
White Scars: White armour, red banding
Alpha Legion: Blue armour, white banding. green symbols
Luna Wolves / (Sons of Horus) : Light grey (dark grey) armour. Black banding
Thousand Sons: Red armour, white banding
Iron Hands: Black Armour, steel banding, white icons
Space Wolves: Grey/Blue armour same as in 40k
.

Legion2: green and purple polka dots

Legion11: Pink and fluffy

According to my 2nd legion army the colour is orange and white and gold....

But each to their own.

Corennus wrote:

Dark Angels: Black
BLood Angels: Blood Red
World Eaters: White / blue
Ultramarines: Blue
Imperial Fists: Yellow
Raven Guard: Black
Emperor's Children: Purple with gold banding
Word Bearers: Steel grey/green with text inscribed. rather dark grey
Death Guard: White/grey armour with drab green banding
Night Lords: Dark Blue armour with lightning patterns. Bat symbols

Iron Warriors: Dark green armour with bronze banding really? IA had them steel grey / black+yellow stripes

Salamanders: Green and gold
White Scars: White armour, red banding
Alpha Legion: Blue armour
Luna Wolves : Light grey / white armour. Black banding
Thousand Sons: crimson Red armour
Iron Hands: Black Armour, steel banding, white icons
Space Wolves: Grey
.

Where did you get the idea of the Iron Warriors colors from?

Corennus wrote:Dark Angels: Black
BLood Angels: Blood Red
World Eaters: White armour with blue Shoulder pads and Backpack
Ultramarines: Blue and gold as
Imperial Fists: Yellow
Raven Guard: Black/White
Emperor's Children: Purple with gold banding
Word Bearers: Steel grey/green with text inscribed.
Death Guard: White/grey armour with drab green banding


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Dark Angels: Black
BLood Angels: Blood Red same as in 40 k
World Eaters: White armour with blue Shoulder pads and Backpack
Ultramarines: Blue and gold armour same as in 40k
Imperial Fists: Yellow same as in 40k
Raven Guard: Black/White same as in 40k
Emperor's Children: Purple with gold banding
Word Bearers: Steel grey/green with text inscribed.
Death Guard: White/grey armour with drab green banding
Night Lords: Dark Blue armour with lightning patterns. Bat symbols
Iron Warriors: Dark green armour with bronze banding
Salamanders: Green and gold
White Scars: White armour, red banding
Alpha Legion: Blue armour, white banding. green symbols
Luna Wolves / (Sons of Horus) : Light grey (dark grey) armour. Black banding
Thousand Sons: Red armour, white banding
Iron Hands: Black Armour, steel banding, white icons
Space Wolves: Grey/Blue armour same as in 40k
.

You sure about those Iron Warrior colours? Green doesn't seem very Iron-like to me...

I was going by the Lexicanum's site. On it they show pre heresy colours. looked greeny to me!

Looks like dark iron or maybe even black to me.

going by the middle shade of the light blending on the shoulder, I'm going to say they're iron coloured.

Ok i'm gonna revise my post on iron warriors and say burnt bronze and dull gold.....

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Sons of Horus were "Sea Green". Kinda a bluish green. Luna Wolves went from White, to Sea Green to Black. It's a metaphor.

For what?

Shaman wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Sons of Horus were "Sea Green". Kinda a bluish green. Luna Wolves went from White, to Sea Green to Black. It's a metaphor.

For what?

Im not sure if its "really" a metaphor but its just the physical representation of their desent into chaos and evil (depending how you look at it)


Also i took a look at horus rising again and if you look at the fluff the cover art isnt actually correct! The marines armour was definatly grey (i already said battle damage probably caused this) but they had a pink shoulderpad with the eye of horus on it and gold/bronze trim, as far as i know the legion never adopted this colour scheme, the eye was when they were sons of horus and they had a wolf when they were the luna wolves. Also they never had pink or anything like it, no company markings or anything like that mentions them as having a pink shoulderpad,so its just another HH screw up

Oh if you want a great Sons of Horus colour scheme i found the one included with Firestorm Over Kronus for Dark Crusade was the best, well everything in that mod was awesome but anyway check it out.

I think that its still a metaphor, but I may be mistaken. I think it stops being a metaphor when its stated 'the reason we changed our paint scheme to black is because we became evil.' (or somesuch) If the colors were changed for another reason, and it just so happens to also mimic their fall into darkness, then its a metaphor. Again, I could be wrong.

Also, in regards to the cover art, that's a harsh reality of publishing. Frequently cover artists have their heads up their asses. Sometime, look up the various cover for the novel Orcs. Some artists apparently never even heard of an orc. Sometimes the cover art bears no resemblence to anything in the book, or wildly changes certain aspects. (Another great example of cover art that doesn't match the books is the Noble Dead saga, by Barb and JC Hendee.) If it helps, I had similar confusion at first.

Shaman wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Sons of Horus were "Sea Green". Kinda a bluish green. Luna Wolves went from White, to Sea Green to Black. It's a metaphor.

For what?

for their descent into Chaos. First they were pure and innnocent (white). Then things got muddyed up a bit when the broke some of the Emperor's decrees and fraterized with chaos and renamed themselves The Sons of Horus. Then straight up unapologfetically evil: Black Legion. many other stories have used similiar visual cues.

Jimsolo wrote:I think that its still a metaphor, but I may be mistaken. I think it stops being a metaphor when its stated 'the reason we changed our paint scheme to black is because we became evil.'

Except that isn't why they changed their colour to Black. They changed to Black armour in mourning of Horus' death and their defeat (Going by the earlier Chaos Codi). The fact that they changed it to black once they were also UberBadChaosRawr was just coincidental.

metallifan wrote:

Jimsolo wrote:I think that its still a metaphor, but I may be mistaken. I think it stops being a metaphor when its stated 'the reason we changed our paint scheme to black is because we became evil.'

Except that isn't why they changed their colour to Black. They changed to Black armour in mourning of Horus' death and their defeat (Going by the earlier Chaos Codi). The fact that they changed it to black once they were also UberBadChaosRawr was just coincidental.

Yes, therefore its a metaphor. Oi! enough on this.

Probably going to open up a huge can of worms here but space marine armor isnt metal as such,
Its ceramite with adamandium plates in places so that would probably be why it looks sort of ceramic when bare..

ceramite casing over adamantium plates. the ceramite is buffed to look shiny and metallic.