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Hey everyone. I figure I'll jump on the bandwagon of seeing what y'all think of my 'Ard Boyz list. Here's what I've got going for me:

HQ:
Belial
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Deathwing banner upgrade
-Apothecary upgrade

Sammael
-Jetbike
-Apothecary


Troop:
Deathwing Terminators
-Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield
-Assault Cannon/Powerfist
-Chainfist/Storm Bolter
-Storm Bolter/Powerfist
-Twin Lightning Claws

Deathwing Terminators
-Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield/Banner Upgrade
-Assault Cannon/Powerfist
-Storm Bolter/Power Fist
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Storm Bolter/Powerfist/Apothecary

Deathwing Terminators
-Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield
-Cyclone Missile Launcher
-Powerfist/Storm Bolter
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Chainfist/Storm Bolter

Ravenwing Bikers
-+3 Bikers
-Melta Gun
-Melta Gun
-Multi Melta Attack Bike
-Power Sword

Ravenwing Bikers
-+3 Bikers
-Melta Gun
-Melta Gun
-Heavy Bolter Attack Bike
-Power Sword

Elite:
Dreadnought
-Venerable
-Extra Armor

Heavy Support:
Devastator Squad
-LasCannon
-Plasma Cannon
-Missile Launcher
-Missile Launcher

Devastator Squad
-LasCannon
-Plasma Cannon
-Missile Launcher
-Missile Launcher

Total: 2290

So I've got 210 points left over and I'm not sure where to put it. Here's my general idea for tactics:

The Dev squads are meant to take down Terms/2+ save models/3+ save models. So why the missile launchers? To use the frag missiles to make them force saves or go for the outright kill on a 3+ model. They'll also be pretty good for taking out tanks at a distance. My Dread is supposed to be a fire magnet and a tarpit. I love assault cannons, and by throwing the Dread at a squad of infantry, he's bound to shred them up in shooting and assaults. The bikers are meant to help the Terms come in safely and if need be, screen them so that they can have a 4+ cover save. Once my Terms are where I need them to be, they are pure tank hunters and tarpitters. Mission 3 may be a pain with them, but I figure that they will either have a 3+ cover save or will have eliminated any threat close enough to them with their melta guns. The power sword is there to help turn the tide of an assault, as I plan on having them charge troops sitting on objectives, at very least I can deny my opponent an objective. Belial is going to run with my Term command squad, they'll be my main shock squad. The other two are going to camp objectives or raise hell as I see fit. I still need to fill my 210 points, and I was thinking two Multi Melta/Assault Cannon speeders in a squad... good for shredding infantry or popping tanks. Or I may throw in a Tactical Squad to max out my troops. I'd give them a LasCannon and a Rhino to just sit in the backfield and snipe tanks.

Comments and criticisms please!

I would drop the Apothecary upgrade for the termies and change there assault cannon to a heavy flamer and that should be enough to buy a LRC for a squad of termies and Belial. The reason is Apothecarys do you no good if they are in combat. So your list would look like this:

HQ:
Belial
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Deathwing banner upgrade

Sammael
-Jetbike
-Apothecary

Troop:
Deathwing Terminators
-Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield
-Assault Cannon/Powerfist
-Chainfist/Storm Bolter
-Storm Bolter/Powerfist
-Twin Lightning Claws

Deathwing Terminators
-Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield/Banner Upgrade
-heavy flamer/Powerfist
-Storm Bolter/Power Fist
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Storm Bolter/Powerfist
-LR Crusader

Deathwing Terminators
-Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield
-Cyclone Missile Launcher
-Powerfist/Storm Bolter
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Chainfist/Storm Bolter

Ravenwing Bikers
-+3 Bikers
-Melta Gun
-Melta Gun
-Multi Melta Attack Bike
-Power Sword

Ravenwing Bikers
-+3 Bikers
-Melta Gun
-Melta Gun
-Heavy Bolter Attack Bike
-Power Sword

Elite:
Dreadnought
-Venerable
-Extra Armor

Heavy Support:
Devastator Squad
-LasCannon
-Plasma Cannon
-Missile Launcher
-Missile Launcher

Devastator Squad
-LasCannon
-Plasma Cannon
-Missile Launcher
-Missile Launcher


If you have any points left over buy a storm bolter for your crusader so you can have more dakka.

If you drop the power sword from the bike squad, you can take another unit of Deathwing for 225 points. Give it a heavy flamer and a chainfist.

Alternatively you can buy Razorbacks for the Dev squads. Would help in DoW and can be used for mobile fire support, tank shocking off objectives, etc.

Thanks for those tips. Here is what I've decided on:

HQ:
Belial
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Deathwing banner upgrade
-Apothecary upgrade

Sammael
-Jetbike

Troop:

Deathwing Terminators
-Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield
-Assault Cannon/Powerfist
-Chainfist/Storm Bolter
-Storm Bolter/Powerfist
-Twin Lightning Claws

Deathwing Terminators
-Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield/Banner Upgrade
-Assault Cannon/Powerfist
-Storm Bolter/Chainfist
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Storm Bolter/Powerfist/Apothecary

Deathwing Terminators
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Cyclone Missile Launcher
-Powerfist/Storm Bolter
-Twin Lightning Claws
-Chainfist/Storm Bolter
Ravenwing Bikers
-+3 Bikers
-Melta Gun
-Melta Gun
-Multi Melta Attack Bike
-Power Sword

Ravenwing Bikers
-+3 Bikers
-Melta Gun
-Melta Gun
-Heavy Bolter Attack Bike
-Power Sword

Elite:
Dreadnought
-Venerable
-Extra Armor

Fast Attack:

Ravenwing Support Squadron
-Multi Melta
-Typhoon Missile Launcher

Heavy Support:

Devastator Squad
-LasCannon
-Plasma Cannon
-Missile Launcher
-Missile Launcher

Devastator Squad
-LasCannon
-Plasma Cannon
-Missile Launcher
-Missile Launcher

Predator
-Autocannon
-LasCannon Sponsons
-Extra Armor

Total: 2,500

I'll let you all know how I do. I've got a good feeling about this build.

good list. I'd like to know how it does

hmmmm.... nice list

What happened with this game?

Regards

Besper

imo, always take as many Apots as you can so make sure to take an apot for the RW squad aswell.