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Lukas the Trickster is in base contact with a Land Raider. He is then insta-killed by a railgun, and rolls higher then his opponent for the last laugh special rule. Is the land raider then removed due to his this rule?

i would say yes.

It says any models he is in base to base contact with right?

Yup, 'fraid so.

Good deal. I don't see that ever happening though, unless the raider was immobilized. Thanks for the speedy responses!

Whats even cooler is running him into a titan =)

Boy, how pissed would you be if that was your Titan, lol. My brother has a SW army with Lukas the Trickster, and he totally boned one of Stealth Teams and a Team of FWs in one shot with that Last Laugh. I think I still hear it now :(

T_VanderZwaag wrote:Good deal. I don't see that ever happening though, unless the raider was immobilized. Thanks for the speedy responses!

Just don't ever tank shock Lucas "damn I failed my Death or Glory?" lol's ensue

does the roll happen before or after the combat is resolved?

When in CC with a Super-heavy walker you have to consolidate away at the end of every round.

if his roll happens after combat is resolved then he wouldn't be in BtB with the titan.

"does the roll happen before or after the combat is resolved?"

IIRC it happens the precise moment that he loses the wound that kills him.

Hmm, if a land raider were to tank shock them, and you had Luckas DoG, he fails to kill the tank.

Would everything inside the tank also be removed?

Norsehawk wrote:
Would everything inside the tank also be removed?

No, but I can't see how you would do anything with them except not give up kill points or a massacre.

No, but I can't see how you would do anything with them except not give up kill points or a massacre.

I disagree.

If something was in the vehicle it doesnt magically get out... the vehicle hasnt been destroyed, nor has it been sploded... its been removed from play.

This means there has been none of the qualifiers that enable you to get out. Alternatively consider them to have been in base to base with lukas as a component of the vehicle.

To quote my Unofficial Codex: Space Wolves FAQ (Link in Sig):

SW.52.03 – Q: If “The Last Laugh” removes a transport vehicle that has models embarked, are the embarked models also lost?
A: Yes. [Rules Change]
• As written, this actually results in a weird sort of Schrödinger's Cat state. The embarked unit are not destroyed, but cannot disembark (as the transport is gone) and won't be destroyed at the end of the game (unlike units still in reserve, which are destroyed).

so in short, the game breaks.

is it just me or have there been alot of rules question lately that end up breaking the game?

Its GW... what do you expect?

Grey Templar wrote:so in short, the game breaks.

is it just me or have there been alot of rules question lately that end up breaking the game?

How does losing a squad inside a transport break the game exactly? No killpoint and no scoring.. dry as crackers.... Lost...